Darastrixen wrote:Everything about the Baily/King wedding, including the Feraga marriage fiasco, was orchestrated by Kene with the intention of fulfilling *his* (not Pete's) goals of animal rights. The two, however, just so happen to coincide very nicely, and as long as it continues that way, they have a powerful business relation. It seems clear from the end of the Trail in Heaven that Pete had no interest in Baily whatsoever until he learned about the relationship between her and King, and then, circumstantially, Pete's greatest mortal ally takes major steps out of his way to make sure the two end up together?
To recap, Baily was eligible to appear in Babylon Gardens due to somewhat suspicious circumstances; her owners suddenly found a new place that just happens not to accept dogs. Why did they suddenly want to move? Where did the money come from? Perhaps a coincidence...However, she then appears in Babylon Gardens, where she joins King under the Wolves' roof. The Wolves' licenses are held by the ferrets, and the house is owned by the ferrets. They get married on the ferrets' estate under aggressive protection of the ferrets' legal team. It's entirely possible that Kene would have done something like this without being influenced, it does fit his goals, but the timing is...uncanny.
Actually I am more concerned of the fact that no one has ever stopped to think of the huge coincidence that King's first and best friend turned out to be the same dog he kidnapped when he was human. And was even more shocking when he mysteriously fell in love with his cousin which look a lot alike him and then ended up to live in the same house in BG. I always wanted to believe that Pete has something to do with this cause it's too much of a coincidence but at this point I hardly know what to think anymore.
valerio wrote:With due respect, you seem to miss the point.
King surely misses being a human, but he has adapted. And if that, at first, was because he had started with no choice at all, then, with time, being a dog made him someone better. he found a LIFE, he built something new and beautiful (although plagued by the likes of Bino and Petey). And even if you were right about him not wanting to be alone, think again: just a step before the altar, just a step before engaging for the life with a DOG, he had been offered, literally, the FREE 'out-of-jail' ticket! Pete told him clearly that King would cease to exist within one year. he only had to wait and voilà! Free ride home without even having to beg.
At this point, why bother, why going into a marriage, why swearing to himself to 'move mountains and seas' to be with Bailey? Just to have someone to snuggle with? When his intentions were from the beginning to drop it all, shake hands and say 'hey guys, sorry for the misunderstanding, still pals?'?
Just because he has adapted to live as a dog doesn't mean he can't adapt to live as human again and the same applies to Bailey.
What King has learned is that pets aren't that much different from humans as he thought. They're not irrational beast. They have feelings and love to live with the conforts of a human lifestyle with their owners. Maybe their vision of the world is much simpler than what humans have, and they actually don't care much about future but still they are like any other person. They have their own problems and deal with them the best they can (as humans do). Everyone is unique in their own way with unique personalities and there is no difference to relate with them than with humans, no matter if it's about friendship, romance or enmity. There was never a huge difference between animals and humankind to begin with.
valerio wrote:And now you imply that Joel's plan (because you're considering the human, not the dog) could embrace Bailey abandoning her own species and life, which would cause a series of disturbances in her existence, knowing how hard it had affected HIM a similar transition? In this case, Joel not only wouldn't have improved at all, but he would prove that he's even WORSE, if his faith in his own species is so weak as to take a transformed canine to have someone at his side. Talk about disturbing.
So you find more disturbing a dog turning into a human to be in love with another human than a human turning into a dog to be in love with another dog? I'm not sure how works your mind and I don't want to judge you, but I can't see what's the big difference here.
And why are you trying so hard to separate King from Joel when they're the same entity? Each of King's doings are Joel' doings. It was always about the same guy, the only things that changed were his name and his body but his soul and his mind is still the same. Everything he has learned as King he also has learned it as Joel.
Besides, all what I said was about the hypothetical case of Joel turning back to his human form. If Bailey wants to be human in order to be with King then that would be her own choice. I really doubt that Joel would dare to force her to make such decision.
I'm sure Bailey is not in love of his body but his soul. It would be kind of hypocritical otherwise. If that so then there was no “true love” to begin with, just physical attraction. If King was able to renounce to his human life and, as you said, moved mountains and seas to be with Bailey then why do you think Bailey is not willing to do the same? I don't think that even matters so long as they have their happily ever after. I know this comic is about little furry animals but it's not a big deal to be human, you know?
valerio wrote:You are invited (and this is a personal consideration, not a modding) not to analyze me, just as I won't do so with you, thank you.
The above post explained better than I would about Keene's partnership with Pete. The problem is that many clues suggest that Keene is getting drunk with power. And that is *not* a good thing. I understand and appreciate his agenda to help animal rights, but when to do so he'd forcefully separate Sabrina and Fido, I could insinuate that *you* have a problem if you can't see how wrong is that.
Any other philosophical consideration about humankind, I'll gladly discuss it in PM, as I think it's be OT here.
Woah, relax, sorry if I offended you but as I said before, you kinda scared me.
I've never said Keene is a flawless person but you have to admit that he somehow manages to help people every time even when it's not his intention. And about the Jata incident, had it not been for Keene, Fido would never have had the courage to admit his love for Sabrina in public. Look at how happy they're now. And I'm sure he'll find some use of this forbidden inter-species relationship as well.
But what can I say? At the end it's all about personal preferences.