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Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 6:40 am**

valerio wrote:
Discostew wrote:Heh, it could be his way of keeping us in the dark for at least one more strip, because if it was marked Joel, then we wouldn't be speculating this aspect.
Meh, considering that EVERYONE is betting on King being reverted into Joel, tagging 'King' would make no sense. IMO

Tagging 'King' does make sense since he presently appears to be King for everybody until proven otherwise.

I expect to see Joel unter the cover or this:

Discostew wrote:
Kyuunado wrote:Maybe King is gradually becoming a person? That would explain the butterfly text.
I was just being random about the possibility of him having Joel's head and King's body. I didn't think there could be merit to that.

What was also on my mind after I read the strip.

But he should start explaining prior he lefts the cover...

WhoElseButQuagmire wrote:Fox: You must be JoelKing.
King: No, I'm quite serious.

Simply

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 6:50 am**

Gamewolf67 wrote:
copper wrote:Coming In The Back Way

Title Text:imma beautiful butterfly okay

Appearances are everything, after all.

I wonder what's up~
Pillow fight, that's what.

Slow motion pillow fight?

Didn't Rick once use the tag ??? For a character whose identity we were not meant to know yet?

Maybe Pete turned King into Ponbon.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 7:02 am**

WhoElseButQuagmire wrote: Slow motion pillow fight?
Didn't Rick once use the tag ??? For a character whose identity we were not meant to know yet?
Maybe Pete turned King into Ponbon.

"Ack...Fox, stop hugging me..."

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 7:39 am**

That.......... would be very weird. The suspense is killing me!!!!

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 7:42 am**

Humorous plot twist incoming!

I doubt that King sounds like Joel (or vice versa) as Fox would have recognized the same voice when King showed up - dogs have very good hearing. There are too many possibilities to speculate, and Rick usually chooses one I didn't think of, so I'm just going to sit back and watch what happens.

PS: Sorry about my overly serious posts on the previous page's thread. I should know better than to comment on stuff in forums when bad things happen in RL, as that negativity tends to manifest even when not intended. Locking myself in positive or nothing comments mode now. Appreciate the patience.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 7:51 am**

imma beautiful butterfly okay

I'll laugh if Pete did something to his fur patterns/colors. Other then that no speculation from me as its already been said by others.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 8:46 am**

...and unless all of the wolves and Fox got a serious case of the cold, Joel's smell would be filling the room...

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 9:02 am**

If King is now Joel again then all he needs is a fursuit and they''l never know the difference. He can just claim that he's grown a bit.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 9:06 am**

valerio wrote:...and unless all of the wolves and Fox got a serious case of the cold, Joel's smell would be filling the room...

Very true very true. Fox definitely woulda noticed.

Kind of interesting though how King wrapped in a blanket is enough to distract Fox from the immediate situation of where Bailey is.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 9:34 am**

copper wrote:...Also, I think this means that Joel is naked under there? Perish the thought!!!

Oog... pass the Brain Bleach, please.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 10:11 am**

Hlaoroo wrote:If King is now Joel again then all he needs is a fursuit and they''l never know the difference. He can just claim that he's grown a bit.

...And then Sasha checked his teeth

ConvoyWolf wrote:
valerio wrote:...and unless all of the wolves and Fox got a serious case of the cold, Joel's smell would be filling the room...
Very true very true. Fox definitely woulda noticed.
Kind of interesting though how King wrapped in a blanket is enough to distract Fox from the immediate situation of where Bailey is.

Seriously, who would NOT be distracted by a big fat cartoon eskimo??

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 11:27 am**

Strange... A Dog with human head came into my mind...
It really scares me!

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 11:49 am**

I don't know why everyone is saying that is to small to be Joel. It's easily able to fit his size, maybe even more.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 11:50 am**

copper wrote:Coming In The Back Way

Title Text:imma beautiful butterfly okay

Appearances are everything, after all.

I wonder what's up~

Oh! I know! Bailey's the new avatar, so King's losing his dog form! Back to square one, I guess.

(Or it's a pillow fight.)

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 1:03 pm**

What if King IS the blanket? D:

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 1:45 pm**

Wolfbane wrote:What if King IS the blanket? D:

lol, then he's going to be hugged to death!

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 3:43 pm**

Surely King has got a shocking wake up, no matter the reason...

The appearance! It happened? The clock battery got over and now King turned back as Joel?

Both King and Bailey sleep at the wolves' house, hosted by the Milton. King called and told Miles through the door to call Fox because he wants to talk to him, and only he can enter the room, to see the unbelievable things happened... Fox doesn't know anything of King's secret, and it's really late to tell it, but now there's another problem with the disappearing of his cousin.

That anguish...

I would assign a pitched or different voice to King than Joel, because of the smaller size. If under the duvet there's Joel, and the size seem to fit, his voice tone is being camouflaged by it. Joel's smell? Maybe most of it is being trapped.

The tag is still as King to don't show us the real fact today... Can't wait till Wednesday!

At the end, who took advantage of all this is Pete, though, who changed him with Bailey, a stronger avatar which is a native dog without a such expiring... He hasn't to get victory from it.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 3:46 pm**

If he does turn into Joel then Pete is breaking faith with his avatar, Bailey, since that's why she agreed to become his avatar in the first place. Given his previous shenanigans Great Kitsune should disqualify him on grounds of fraud.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 3:54 pm**

Argent wrote:If he does turn into Joel then Pete is breaking faith with his avatar, Bailey, since that's why she agreed to become his avatar in the first place. Given his previous shenanigans Great Kitsune should disqualify him on grounds of fraud.

Depends: during the trial in heaven, Pete had given no indication whatsoever of his intentions toward Bailey. Gryphon's good with clauses and half-truths. Here, it doesn't matter what Bailey believed when she agreed to sign that contract, if she didn't read it thoroughly. pete may be frowned upon by Kitsune, but he did offer a text to read.
Basically, for example, Pete promised that King would take his life and wife. The contract didn't say that he may have to wait until the final phase of the game's over.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 3:55 pm**

Argent wrote:If he does turn into Joel then Pete is breaking faith with his avatar, Bailey, since that's why she agreed to become his avatar in the first place. Given his previous shenanigans Great Kitsune should disqualify him on grounds of fraud.

GK doesn't really care, you do realize that, right?

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 4:01 pm**

What Bailey believes is completely relevant to the question of whether he's breaking faith with her. Faith is, at its very core, a matter of what people believe. And he can not credibly argue that he didn't believe she intended to intercede on King's behalf when her power comes from that very intercession.

If he had previously kept faith with his mortal toys, then he could expect leniency, but given the circumstances if Kitsune doesn't do his own rules lawyering to find some excuse to nail Pete to the wall, he's not doing his job as GM right. And it's got nothing to do with whether he cares about King: it's a GM's job to provide game balance and feed rules lawyers into the shredder.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 4:02 pm**

Argent wrote:What Bailey believes is completely relevant to the question of whether he's breaking faith with he. He can not credibly argue that he didn't believe she intended to intercede on King's behalf when her power comes from that very intercession.
If he had previously kept faith with his mortal toys, then he could expect leniency, but given the circumstances if Kitsune doesn't do his own rules lawyering to find some excuse to nail Pete to the wall, he's not doing his job as GM right. And it's got nothing to do with whether he cares about King: it's a GM's job to provide game balance and feed rules lawyers into the shredder.

You got a niiiice point there, kind Sir

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 4:17 pm**

Argent wrote:What Bailey believes is completely relevant to the question of whether he's breaking faith with her. Faith is, at its very core, a matter of what people believe. And he can not credibly argue that he didn't believe she intended to intercede on King's behalf when her power comes from that very intercession.

If he had previously kept faith with his mortal toys, then he could expect leniency, but given the circumstances if Kitsune doesn't do his own rules lawyering to find some excuse to nail Pete to the wall, he's not doing his job as GM right. And it's got nothing to do with whether he cares about King: it's a GM's job to provide game balance and feed rules lawyers into the shredder.

Nice observation there. The last strip's thread description does say "Pete's really good at taking care of his avatars~", so by continuing to mess with King, he's messing with Bailey, and if he's messing with his new avatar Bailey, then he's potentially screwing himself over, not to mention that he'd be going against this description given about him.

When Joel first turned into King, he wasn't aware of the transformation until it was pointed out to him. Perhaps in this case, he assumed that Pete did change him back. Maybe he didn't examine himself upon waking up and simply hid under the blankets so no one would notice, continuing to act as if he did change.

Fox: "King, what's wrong?"
King: "Fox, I've been hiding something from you for too long..."
**King removes the blanket**
King: "...I'm...I'm..."
**Fox covers his eyes**
Fox: "Woah dude! Put your collar on!"
King: "Huh?"
**King examines himself**
King: "I'm still a dog?.....I'M STILL A DOG! Isn't that wonderful, Fox?"
Fox: "Whatever you say, but I ain't uncovering my eyes until you put something on."

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 4:53 pm**

I kind of assumed that the bit about him taking good care of his avatars was ironic.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 4:53 pm**

I don't know if Universes and Unrealities has game masters nearly as strict as the ones on Earth. Plus, Bailey has to win for Pete in order to have her wishes granted, and since the duel is merely starting.....

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 5:12 pm**

Whatever Pete explicitly promised her, he knew the basis on which she accepted his contract because that's how she got her powers. If he knowingly got her to sign on false pretenses, then there is no "meeting of minds" and the contract is void.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 6:53 pm**

Hrm, building off of my theory that Pete wants King at maximum distress, I'm going to say that its King under the blanket, but Rick is taking a page out of Junior.

Pete couldn't send Bailey into battle pregnant, but he also couldn't just whoosh the unborn child away because that would be interfering with a mortal life.

So yeah. King is tots preggers.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 6:54 pm**

Argent wrote:Whatever Pete explicitly promised her, he knew the basis on which she accepted his contract because that's how she got her powers. If he knowingly got her to sign on false pretenses, then there is no "meeting of minds" and the contract is void.

That is assuming that the magical panuniversal legal system works like the ones in our contemporary western culture.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 6:57 pm**

It's not the legal system, it's game mechanics. You have to have game balance or you might as well be playing Eve Online.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 7:16 pm**

Woe unto the foolish fool who trusts game rulesets to be enforced to the letter!

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 8:12 pm**

So is this taking place in the day or is it still nighttime?

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Welcome to the forums aguythatcan!

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 8:13 pm**

Gesque wrote:Hrm, building off of my theory that Pete wants King at maximum distress, I'm going to say that its King under the blanket, but Rick is taking a page out of Junior.

Pete couldn't send Bailey into battle pregnant, but he also couldn't just whoosh the unborn child away because that would be interfering with a mortal life.

So yeah. King is tots preggers.

Finally! I've been trying to get someone else to realize the implications of this! Hahahahaha... poor King

Saturn381 wrote:So is this taking place in the day or is it still nighttime?
aguythatcan wrote:Ok new guy here
Welcome to the forums aguythatcan!

Thanks Saturn! I'm trying to get my forum legs back hahaha.

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Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 9:00 pm**

I've noticed a lot of people thinking that Fox would peg King as Joel from the get-go just for sounding like him. However, there a couple of facts that I believe they're all overlooking: King is a dog and Fox is completely unaware of all this cosmic stuff going on.

Try to imagine it from his point - pretend you've never met Pete or learned about the game, demigods or any of that. Just pretend that one day, King was just brought into town the way that he was and just happened to sound like a human who had shown up some time ago. Without the knowledge of his origin or any cosmic game going on, you probably wouldn't think anything of it other than, "Huh...that's pretty weird" and then just shrug it off. At least, that would be the rational viewpoint. It'd be hard to make the jump to the conclusion that a dog you've just met was once a completely different species just because of voice similarity. You'd need to have the knowledge of all that cosmic game stuff to make that jump and that's knowledge that Fox just doesn't have...yet. He's been introduced to it through hypotheticals at one point, but we've all seen his reactions to them; he thinks it's all nonsense.

So it's entirely possible for King to sound exactly like he did as a human and Fox not to have any suspicions about who he was before.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 9:15 pm**

Silly Zealot wrote:Woe unto the foolish fool who trusts game rulesets to be enforced to the letter!

Darn it, man, Franzisca Von Karma popped immediately into mind when you said that.

Well, yeah, from what we've seen, there are quite a bit of loopholes in this game.

Posted: **Mon May 19, 2014 10:10 pm**

max7345 wrote:I've noticed a lot of people thinking that Fox would peg King as Joel from the get-go just for sounding like him. However, there a couple of facts that I believe they're all overlooking: King is a dog and Fox is completely unaware of all this cosmic stuff going on.

Try to imagine it from his point - pretend you've never met Pete or learned about the game, demigods or any of that. Just pretend that one day, King was just brought into town the way that he was and just happened to sound like a human who had shown up some time ago. Without the knowledge of his origin or any cosmic game going on, you probably wouldn't think anything of it other than, "Huh...that's pretty weird" and then just shrug it off. At least, that would be the rational viewpoint. It'd be hard to make the jump to the conclusion that a dog you've just met was once a completely different species just because of voice similarity. You'd need to have the knowledge of all that cosmic game stuff to make that jump and that's knowledge that Fox just doesn't have...yet. He's been introduced to it through hypotheticals at one point, but we've all seen his reactions to them; he thinks it's all nonsense.

So it's entirely possible for King to sound exactly like he did as a human and Fox not to have any suspicions about who he was before.

I was simply under the impression that because of the long period of time between Fox hearing Joel (which wasn't a lot) to when he heard King that he forgot what Joel sounded like. Rather applies to anyone of the HP comic really. Dogs have a good sense of smell and they can hear well, but we're dealing with remembering a voice.

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 12:34 am**

Cartoon physiology allows animals and humans to basically sound alike.
I like to think that there would be some difference.

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 1:49 am**

valerio wrote:Cartoon physiology allows animals and humans to basically sound alike.
I like to think that there would be some difference.

Oddly enough, The Emperor's New Groove demonstrates both. Kuzco sounds the same no matter what form he takes, animal or human, but Yzma doesn't. So...

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 5:30 am**

If King Turned Human or not... Thats one thing that only God and Rick Know...

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 6:08 am**

Ninkurou wrote:If King Turned Human or not... Thats one thing that only God and Rick Know...

...and Karishad.

Posted: **Tue May 20, 2014 6:12 am**

Ninkurou wrote:If King Turned Human or not... Thats one thing that only God and Rick Know...

tomorrow, we know...

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