2014/09/10 - Consultation Prize

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D-Rock wrote:Just had an absolutely crazy idea, and I'm not one who has crazy ideas!

Now what if, when the crew gets back to Babylon Gardens, Mr. and Mrs. Sandwich announce they're expecting, and it turns out to be the mortal Dragon and Pete!!

And if that's the case, it would be a good thing they wouldn't remember, as Dragon crushing on Peanut would gain a new level of creepy (of course assuming that's what was meant by them not remembering, we're going to have to wait for an explanation on that).
Xane wrote:On the converse side the huge amount of focus on King and the cosmic nerds that really took off during Dog Days Of Summer made a lot of people feel like he changed a comic that was slice-of-life with a moderate amount of supernatural events into a completely different comic where everything was focused on the cosmic game and even storylines that didn't involve them had people constantly speculating as to who might be who's avatar or minion in disguise or how this was going to help Pete or Dragon or who to ship them with and basically made Peanut and Grape minor background characters a lot of the time.

I never complained directly to Mr. Griffin because it's his comic to do what he wants with, but my personal dislike of the whole thing had much less to do with the above issues but more that I got really tired of seeing Pete bullying King over and over with barely any repercussions. In Dog Days all that happened was he couldn't keep pretending King was his avatar (King had never agreed to it, so even *if* his character had simply been a very grumpy dog rather than being transformed Pete was still skirting the rules) but he was still free to harass and threaten King, which is exactly what kept happening. I did, however, find this last storyline fun, and not because Pete lost - I kinda felt sorry for him in the end, but then, I've never felt that he was evil, just way too mean most of the time. The whole denouement has been quite fun to read but I'm glad it's over and hopefully King and Bailey will be back together without having to look over their shoulders for Pete to torment them again.

I also find forced TF incredibly creepy to the point that I couldn't stand reading It's A Wonderful Dog's Life the first time around but that's just me.
Yeah, as much of a good story arc this has gotten us, I did get tired of people constantly bringing it up. Now, I'm up for speculation, but when it was constantly discussed on a slice-of-life strip, I felt that we were missing out on the strip itself because we focused too much on another arc. It's been a great and involving ride, don't get me wrong, but it would be nice to see a conclusion. Do feel bad for Rick, though, as he probably felt forced to end it. And yeah, a lot of us felt sad seeing Pete like that. It's good to feel pity for someone that most of us disliked. One can't stay mad forever.

I'll admit, the transformation thing still seems creepy to me, because King, who is actually a human, fell in love with Bailey, a dog. Yes, King and Bailey make a cute couple, but my mind cannot ignore Joel. That may be just me, though.
Just pretend that Joel fell in love with Bailey. :P
(or does that just make it more creepy? XD )
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One more thing I wanted to add (and I don't know how likely this would be given that Cerb was already escorting them out the door): I want to see Joel/King and Pete have some kind of heart to heart, like a handshake or something, to show there was no hard feelings. Maybe Joel could thank him, only for helping him construct the life he now has, because without him, he'd still be doing time, living a cold and bitter life.

As for Dragon, I don't know how well she could make amends with Tarot and Sabrina, but I guess a group hug works as well.
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MrBlueSky7 wrote:One more thing I wanted to add (and I don't know how likely this would be given that Cerb was already escorting them out the door): I want to see Joel/King and Pete have some kind of heart to heart, like a handshake or something, to show there was no hard feelings. Maybe Joel could thank him, only for helping him construct the life he now has, because without him, he'd still be doing time, living a cold and bitter life.

As for Dragon, I don't know how well she could make amends with Tarot and Sabrina, but I guess a group hug works as well.
Somehow, I doubt that Joel would do that. Let's face it, we've seen him go through a lot, but he's still not the nicest of people. He tends to hold a lot of anger towards them, though not all of it is unwarranted. With Dragon, that I can see, but I would think she would feel too ashamed to approach them.
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MrBlueSky7 wrote:[...] without [Pete, Joel would] still be doing time [...]
He would not. If Pete hadn't interfered he would have been out of jail five years ago (time served, remember) and he'd already had an epiphany about PETA when he was caught so he wouldn't have gone back there.
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Argent wrote:
MrBlueSky7 wrote:[...] without [Pete, Joel would] still be doing time [...]
He would not. If Pete hadn't interfered he would have been out of jail five years ago (time served, remember) and he'd already had an epiphany about PETA when he was caught so he wouldn't have gone back there.
Possibly. Though what's the usual punishment for dognapping and resisting arrest?
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Argent wrote:
MrBlueSky7 wrote:[...] without [Pete, Joel would] still be doing time [...]
He would not. If Pete hadn't interfered he would have been out of jail five years ago (time served, remember) and he'd already had an epiphany about PETA when he was caught so he wouldn't have gone back there.
Time passes funny remember? Just sayin.
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D-Rock wrote:
Argent wrote:
MrBlueSky7 wrote:[...] without [Pete, Joel would] still be doing time [...]
He would not. If Pete hadn't interfered he would have been out of jail five years ago (time served, remember) and he'd already had an epiphany about PETA when he was caught so he wouldn't have gone back there.
Possibly. Though what's the usual punishment for dognapping and resisting arrest?
It was explicitly stated that the penalty was going to be "time served". If Pete hadn't interfered, he would have walked out of court free.
SuperStar wrote:Time passes funny remember? Just sayin.
Same objection: by the time Pete interfered, his punishment had already been completed. It would have to go backwards. Joel has nothing to thank Pete for.
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Argent wrote:
SuperStar wrote:Time passes funny remember? Just sayin.
Same objection: by the time Pete interfered, his punishment had already been completed. It would have to go backwards. Joel has nothing to thank Pete for.
But he was heading to a trial, that's the thing. He's gonna be held for escaping his trial.
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SuperStar wrote:
Argent wrote:
SuperStar wrote:Time passes funny remember? Just sayin.
Same objection: by the time Pete interfered, his punishment had already been completed. It would have to go backwards. Joel has nothing to thank Pete for.
But he was heading to a trial, that's the thing. He's gonna be held for escaping his trial.
Could you back up and read the context of this subthread? I'm objecting to the argument that Joel should be grateful to Pete because he got him out of jail. That just simply isn't so. If Pete hadn't interfered, he wouldn't have "escaped", and therefore if Pete hadn't interfered, he wouldn't have been in danger of apprehension for escaping.
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The "time served" thing has been discussed so often it shouldn't be news to anyone.

Regardless, Pete's done nothing that Joel should be grateful for. The idea of Joel burying the hatchet with that monster, let alone thanking him, is bizarre.
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Argent wrote:Let's see, what loose ends do we have:

Tarot's elevator.
We'll have to see just how strong her "sparks" are, and how strong her abilities were connected to Dragon.
The pastel angel buttons.
That is interesting. I personally just thought it was a memento for Fox of those two ladies he was with.
Keene's lump of mana.
This is probably the biggest question of them all. What about the mana chip?
The giant feather.
Probably means nothing. It's just one of Pete's feathers Grape ended up with.
The golden kitsune statue.
Another good question.
King's fate watch.
Did Pete give it back to him before leaving?
The lantern that signals Cerberus.
I don't think it signalled Cerberus, per se. But I do think it was the power sink that suppressed everyone's powers when they got to Australia.
The gadget that stings a bit.
Which one is that?
Pete's temple.
If Zachary can still get in, then it means the ferrets are richer than Dog. Even moreso than usual.
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Argent wrote:The gadget that stings a bit.
Which one is that?
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I'm guessing that most of Tarots gadgets (glow lamp, btzz thing etc.) will remain in her possession, but whether or not she can still use them is another question entirely.

Hopefully so, though.
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Xane wrote:On the converse side the huge amount of focus on King and the cosmic nerds that really took off during Dog Days Of Summer made a lot of people feel like he changed a comic that was slice-of-life with a moderate amount of supernatural events into a completely different comic where everything was focused on the cosmic game and even storylines that didn't involve them had people constantly speculating as to who might be whose avatar or minion in disguise or how this was going to help Pete or Dragon or who to ship them with and basically made Peanut and Grape minor background characters a lot of the time.
I disagree to an extent. The supernatural elements of the story had always been apart of the foundations of the story. Pete's been a character close to the beginning of the comic for Pete's sake. (Pun intended. But seriously Pete's been apart of the story since November 2008, the comic started in June of 08.) And King/Joel has been apart of the story since the FIRST year of it's run. (Joel appeared in April of 2009 and was turned into a Dog in December of 2009.) It's been pretty clear from the start that something was brewing in the background. Dog Days of Summer merely brought this element closer to the forefront as the story had been slowly progressing to that point for a while. It's not as if the Cosmic Nerds and King/Joel were recent additions to the story, they've been apart of the story since it's early years and the Cosmic Game was probably planned in broad strokes since close to that point.

Slice of Life is awesome, Slice of Life can be relaxing and fun to read and follow...But at the same time it's not exactly a story. I like Housepets because Rick's shown he's capable of giving us REALLY good dramatic story arc's concerning the Cosmic Nerds, King/Joel and other moments, but then knows how to slow things back down for a while with Slice of Life fun. And while some of the Slice of Life stuff would sometimes go into elements of the more serious aspects of the story he still more or less kept things neat and orderly.

And the thing about Peanut and Grape? Well THAT'S to be expected. This is a story that's been going on for a good six years now and has developed a large cast of characters of interesting characters with varying levels of importance. Even IF the Cosmic Game and it's associated elements had been relegated to the background or had never been a thing to start with then they still would have wound up over shadowed eventually.
Xane wrote: I never complained directly to Mr. Griffin because it's his comic to do what he wants with, but my personal dislike of the whole thing had much less to do with the above issues but more that I got really tired of seeing Pete bullying King over and over with barely any repercussions. In Dog Days all that happened was he couldn't keep pretending King was his avatar (King had never agreed to it, so even *if* his character had simply been a very grumpy dog rather than being transformed Pete was still skirting the rules) but he was still free to harass and threaten King, which is exactly what kept happening. I did, however, find this last storyline fun, and not because Pete lost - I kinda felt sorry for him in the end, but then, I've never felt that he was evil, just way too mean most of the time. The whole denouement has been quite fun to read but I'm glad it's over and hopefully King and Bailey will be back together without having to look over their shoulders for Pete to torment them again.
That's the POINT though. >.<
We've known since Dog Days of Summer that Pete's likely going to get hit with a huge heaping helping of Karma or suddenly realize he's been a monster and repent. The problem with repercussions is that Pete's a god, this sort of thing is actually rather normal in mythology and actually if you want to get technical, going by the usual standard Pete's actually better behaved then many Mythological Pantheons.
But in regards to the story the problem is that he's walking on a knifes edge when it comes to the rules dealing with Mortals and it's not portrayed as okay. He got in trouble with the other gods over his behavior and was being watched pretty closely. Kitsune's made it clear that Pete and Dragons behavior was unacceptable and even if they hadn't broken the rules from a moral standpoint they both had failed.

And mostly I'm worried that Pete and Dragon and the other Gods will no longer make appearances.
I LOVE those Characters. There interesting and fascinating and their actions have been a motivating force in the comic since the start. If Rick removes them from the comic completely. (Which is likely what would happen if they get sentenced to sixty years of mortality and made Tabula Rasa's.) Then the characters we know as Dragon and Pete no longer exist in the comics and this excision from the comic is even more jarring given the POSITIVE character development the two had received in the Mondays Update.

Removing those two from the comic would be like removing King,Fox, Tarot, Sabrina, Fido or Bailey from the comic. Hell, it'd be like removing Peanut or Grape in some ways. There important members of the cast and their removal would be sad in the extreme. :(

Xane wrote: I also find forced TF incredibly creepy to the point that I couldn't stand reading It's A Wonderful Dog's Life the first time around but that's just me.
Forced TF is actually a rather common story telling mechanic.
Really King/Joels transformation reminds me of Circe from Greek Mythology. Writers have been fascinated with Circe for thousands of years.
Her ability to turn men into animals and whether the human consciousness changed at the same time, and even whether it was a change for the better. Plutarch took up the theme in a lively dialogue that was later to have several imitators. Contained in his Moralia is the Gryllus episode in which Circe allows Odysseus to interview a fellow Greek turned into a pig. There his interlocutor informs Odysseus that his present existence is preferable to the human. They then engage in a philosophical dialogue in which every human value is questioned and beasts are proved to be of superior wisdom and virtue.

My absolute FAVORITE story regarding this particular trope as it relates to Circe is La Fontaine’s late fable, “The Companions of Ulysses” , that also echoes Plutarchi. Once transformed, every animal (which include a lion, a bear, a wolf and a mole) protest that their lot is better and refuse to be restored to human shape.



Dear prince, a special favourite of the skies,
Pray let my incense from your altars rise.
With these her gifts, if rather late my muse,
My age and labours must her fault excuse.
My spirit wanes, while yours beams on the sight
At every moment with augmented light:
It does not go — it runs, — it seems to fly;
And he from whom it draws its traits so high,
In war a hero, burns to do the same.
No lack of his that, with victorious force,
His giant strides mark not his glory’s course:
Some god retains: our sovereign I might name;
Himself no less than conqueror divine,
Whom one short month made master of the Rhine.

It needed then upon the foe to dash;
Perhaps, to-day, such generalship were rash.
But hush, — they say the Loves and Smiles
Abhor a speech spun out in miles;
And of such deities your court
Is constantly composed, in short.
Not but that other gods, as meet,

There hold the highest seat:
For, free and lawless as the rest may seem,
Good Sense and Reason bear a sway supreme.
Consult these last about the case
Of certain men of Grecian race,
Who, most unwise and indiscreet,
Imbibed such draughts of poison sweet,
As changed their form, and brutified.
Ten years the heroes at Ulysses’ side
Had been the sport of wind and tide.

At last those powers of water
The sea-worn wanderers bore
To that enchanted shore
Where Circe reign’d, Apollo’s daughter.
She press’d upon their thirsty lips
Delicious drink, but full of bane:
Their reason, at the first light sips,
Laid down the sceptre of its reign.

Then took their forms and features
The lineaments of various creatures.
To bears and lions some did pass,
Or elephants of ponderous mass;
While not a few, I ween,

In smaller forms were seen, —
In such, for instance, as the mole.
Of all, the sage Ulysses sole
Had wit to shun that treacherous bowl.
With wisdom and heroic mien,
And fine address, he caused the queen
To swallow, on her wizard throne,
A poison somewhat like her own.

A goddess, she to speak her wishes dared,
And hence, at once, her love declared.
Ulysses, truly too judicious
To lose a moment so propitious,
Besought that Circe would restore
His Greeks the shapes that first they wore.
Replied the nymph, ‘But will they take them back?
Go make the proffer to the motley pack.’

Ulysses ran, both glad and sure:
‘That poisonous cup,’ cried he ‘hath yet its cure;
And here I bring what ends your shame and pain.
Will you, dear friends, be men again?
Pray speak, for speech is now restored.’

‘No,’ said the lion, — and he roar’d, —
‘My head is not so void of brains!
Renounce shall I my royal gains?
I’ve claws and teeth to tear my foes to bits,
And, more than that, I’m king.
Am I such gifts away to fling,
To be but one of Ithaca’s mere cits?
In rank and file perhaps I might bear arms.
In such a change I see no charms.’ —

Ulysses passes to the bear:—
‘How changed, my friend, from what you were!
How sightly once! how ugly now!’

‘Humph! truly how?’
Growl’d Bruin in his way —
‘How else than as a bear should be, I pray?
Who taught your stilted highness to prefer
One form to every other, sir?
Doth yours possess peculiar powers
The merits to decide, of ours?
With all respect, I shall appeal my case
To some sweet beauty of the bearish race.
Please pass it by, if you dislike my face.
I live content, and free from care;
And, well remembering what we were,
I say it, plain and flat,
I’ll change to no such state as that.’

Next to the wolf the princely Greek
With flattering hope began to speak:—
‘Comrade, I blush, I must confess,
To hear a gentle shepherdess
Complaining to the echoing rocks
Of that outrageous appetite
Which drives you, night by night,
To prey upon her flocks.
You had been proud to guard her fold
In your more honest life of old.
Pray quit this wolfship, now you can,
And leave the woods an honest man.’

‘But is there one?’ the wolf replied:
‘Such man, I own, I never spied.
You treat me as a ravenous beast,
But what are you? To say the least,
You would yourself have eat the sheep,
Which, eat by me, the village weep.
Now, truly, on your faith confess,
Should I, as man, love flesh the less?
Why, man, not seldom, kills his very brother;
What, then, are you but wolves to one another?
Now, everything with care to scan,
And rogue with rogue to rate,
I’d better be a wolf than man,
And need not change my state.’

Thus all did wise Ulysses try,
And got from all the same reply,
As well from great as small.
Wild liberty was dear to all;
To follow lawless appetite
They counted their supreme delight.
All banish’d from their thought and care
The glorious praise of actions fair.
Where passion led, they thought their course was free;
Self-bound, their chains they could not see.
Prince, I had wish’d for you a theme to choose,
Where I might mingle pleasantry with use;
And I should meet with your approving voice,

No doubt, if I could make such choice.
At last, Ulysses’ crew
Were offer’d to my view.
And there are like them not a few,
Who may for penalty await
Your censure and your hate

When Mortals from the path of Honour stray,
And the strong passions over reason sway,
What are they then but Brutes?
‘Tis vice alone that constitutes
Th’enchanting wand and magic bowl,
The exterior form of Man they wear,
But are in fact both Wolf and Bear,
The transformation’s in the Soul."


King/Joel's position in the story is REALLY bizarre in it's similarity to the tales of Circe. o.o
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What are they then but Brutes? ‘Tis vice alone that constitutes. Th’enchanting wand and magic bowl,
The exterior form of Man they wear,But are in fact both Wolf and Bear,
The transformation’s in the Soul.
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Allow me an applause, WireWolf.
And though Rick's original plans for the cosmic game have drastically changed, I have no doubt that, given time enough, leaving aside fantrolls and their drama, the furret can pick up back the supernatural theme and have it go smoothly and awesome. He's proved time and again he's a versatile writer.
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Wirewolf, you just made me appreciate poetry even more. Well done. :)
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Douglas Collier wrote:Wirewolf, you just made me appreciate poetry even more. Well done. :)
Monsieur Jean de La Fontaine is a favorite of mine. ^.^;
17th Century writer most famous for his book of Fables.
The ending verse was added by Charles Dennis back in 1754 and for me it's worthy of inclusion with Fontaine's original work. I often use it as a Sig.


Circe and the concept of 'Reasoning Beasts' has been a favorite of French and Italian writers for a long time and it's one reason why I love King/Joel and the situation he's placed in.
His situation is like that of Altered Greeks.

Ulysses spoke to Lion about ending his shame and pain at being a mere beast when Lion pointed out that before he was just a lowly soldier and now he's a king of beasts.

Ulysses spoke to Bear about going from an ugly bear to a handsome man once more when Bear pointed out that how else should a bear look and he'd take it up with a sweet Sow to find out if he's handsome and not rely on the opinion of a human.

Ulysses spoke to Wolf about going from a ravenous thieving wolf to an honest man then Wolf points out that there is no such thing as an honest man, he's obeying his nature and even if he does steal sheep, man kills his brother man and 'Act like wolves to each other' behavior that no wolf would permit.

Kitsune speaks to King....I wonder what HE will say? >:3
valerio wrote:Allow me an applause, WireWolf.
And though Rick's original plans for the cosmic game have drastically changed, I have no doubt that, given time enough, leaving aside fantrolls and their drama, the furret can pick up back the supernatural theme and have it go smoothly and awesome. He's proved time and again he's a versatile writer.
Thanks. ^.^;
And I don't disagree. But my flaw is that of impatience and worry. I'm far to quick to the cut and rapid change like this one leaves an ashen taste in my mouth as I worry. Closure is Overrated and Endings leave me yearning for the road unending.

As I said. Pete, Dragon and Kitsune are awesome and the cosmic game has been a central part of the story for quite a while now. Arguably as far back as Pete's first appearance. It's sudden finish and it's players locked away in unknowing mortal guises to me makes me feel that the story is bereft.

Ricks a great writer, I'm not so much worried about Rick pulling a griffon and dragon out of his hat. I'm worried about what the aforementioned 'Fantrolls' have pushed him to. (If they have at all. Most of this IS speculation on our part.)
What are they then but Brutes? ‘Tis vice alone that constitutes. Th’enchanting wand and magic bowl,
The exterior form of Man they wear,But are in fact both Wolf and Bear,
The transformation’s in the Soul.
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ArcWolf wrote:Guys, I think Joel might be King.

There's a lot of subtle hints about it.
Nah, that couldn't be true. It would be too silly to put into the story. Also, there is NO way that that would happen. How does a human turn into a dog and a dog to a human? Nah, can't happen.
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dtlux1 wrote:
ArcWolf wrote:Guys, I think Joel might be King.

There's a lot of subtle hints about it.
Nah, that couldn't be true. It would be too silly to put into the story. Also, there is NO way that that would happen. How does a human turn into a dog and a dog to a human? Nah, can't happen.
Joel's been through all so much,
Had it up to here all day
But thanks to Kinsune's help right now
He's gonna have his say
Tonight with Bailey he'll have a private fling
Oh, Joel just can't wait to be King!

No more 'wake up'
No more 'fight them'
No more feathered Jerk
Talking with beaked smirk

Now it's time to beat Pete with his wing...
Oh, Joel just can't wait to be King!
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Let me clarify a little on what I meant by Joel/King 'forgiving' Pete:

I'm not saying he should be all like "Oh my god! I'm so sorry you lost, but it was nice knowing ya pal! I forgive you!" No, Absolutely not. What I'm trying to get at is not having any kind of pity on him (even if he had it coming) is simply bringing him down to their level, and he should know better than that. If anything, I was merely suggesting something along the lines of "Hey, you may have nearly tried to destroy my life, but in some ways, you made it better, so thanks" with a bit of modesty, since obviously they're never gonna see each other again.

But hey, if my suggestion bothers some people, feel free to disregard it. ;)
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WhoElseButQuagmire wrote:
dtlux1 wrote:
ArcWolf wrote:Guys, I think Joel might be King.

There's a lot of subtle hints about it.
Nah, that couldn't be true. It would be too silly to put into the story. Also, there is NO way that that would happen. How does a human turn into a dog and a dog to a human? Nah, can't happen.
Joel's been through all so much,
Had it up to here all day
But thanks to Kinsune's help right now
He's gonna have his say
Tonight with Bailey he'll have a private fling
Oh, Joel just can't wait to be King!

No more 'wake up'
No more 'fight them'
No more feathered Jerk
Talking with beaked smirk

Now it's time to beat Pete with his wing...
Oh, Joel just can't wait to be King!
You are truely awesome at this. Now I have school, so I have to go to bed, but I am happy, as the update is usually out by the time I have free time in school. I can't wait.

You make great poetry, I love it. It made the wait better, even if I only saw it now. I love it.

You are awesome.






ALSO! I just noticed that this update was on the day after my birthday. I guess the sur-prize is a birthday gift to me. Though, I probably wouldn't want it.

WHAT IS IT GONNA BE! I NEED TO KNOW! I hope it isn't something like, "YOU HAVE NEVER MET PETE AND NEVER BECAME KING! THE END! YOU STILL HAVE ALL YOUR MEMORIES, BUT NO ONE ELSE DOES! THESE 4 YEARS HAVE BEEN FOR NOTHING! THEY NEVER HAPPENED!"

We know that wouldn't happen though, right? RIGHT?!?!‽
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WhoElseButQuagmire wrote:
Joel's been through all so much,
Had it up to here all day
But thanks to Kinsune's help right now
He's gonna have his say
Tonight with Bailey he'll have a private fling
Oh, Joel just can't wait to be King!

No more 'wake up'
No more 'fight them'
No more feathered Jerk
Talking with beaked smirk

Now it's time to beat Pete with his wing...
Oh, Joel just can't wait to be King!
BRA-VO!
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MrBlueSky7 wrote:Let me clarify a little on what I meant by Joel/King 'forgiving' Pete:

I'm not saying he should be all like "Oh my god! I'm so sorry you lost, but it was nice knowing ya pal! I forgive you!" No, Absolutely not. What I'm trying to get at is not having any kind of pity on him (even if he had it coming) is simply bringing him down to their level, and he should know better than that. If anything, I was merely suggesting something along the lines of "Hey, you may have nearly tried to destroy my life, but in some ways, you made it better, so thanks" with a bit of modesty, since obviously they're never gonna see each other again.

But hey, if my suggestion bothers some people, feel free to disregard it. ;)
Don't worry, I knew what you meant, it just seems like Joel's the guy who would hold onto resentment.
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Where was it said that Rick had to change the storyline of the cosmic games? I thought that he was ending it on plan?
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The lantern concept feels as if it came out of nowhere, to wrap up the story. It wasn't really referenced before it's arrival into the plot.

... So yeah, I can tell this was rushed just a bit, but it's probably the best option. What I'm concerned about is that this loss isn't going to change Dragon and Pete according to the stipulation that they won't remember their time as mortals. A change of heart for the both of them (especially Pete) was wanted and it seems that Pete is on the cusp of it, unfortunately this mortal thing is going to ultimately be a delay to it.
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I'm pretty sure it means they won't remember, as mortals, that they are demigods
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Obbl wrote:I'm pretty sure it means they won't remember, as mortals, that they are demigods
Nope, but it would be funny if they did.
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