HPU:Richmond Acres OOC

Welsh Halfwit · Post by **Welsh Halfwit** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:48 am

LovingCorgi wrote:Kilo sounds just like the doctor. He even figured something out with just one small hint.

Merely a reasonable deduction, dear boy. Be it girlfriend or mate the gift means you care about her deeply, correct?

In other news, I have to find a way to lighten character load. My current thoughts is to get Potato and Chip to Wicket's group and keep Kilo and leslie as mains. IF I can get Leslie back into things.

MrNeonShot · Post by **MrNeonShot** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:19 am

I don't mean to be rude, but perhaps you should have Leslie move in with Hutch. This way you'd have a more active owner. Or, take control of his current owner. Just inform him of what you do afterwards.

Welsh Halfwit · Post by **Welsh Halfwit** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:34 am

MrNeonShot wrote:I don't mean to be rude, but perhaps you should have Leslie move in with Hutch. This way you'd have a more active owner. Or, take control of his current owner. Just inform him of what you do afterwards.

That may be the way to go. But I'd like Rooks' take on it first. Then work a way to do it...

Esper · Post by **Esper** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:04 pm

Hey guys, I'd like to say that we need to tone it down and pick a direction. RA can brush up against the rating level quite often, and we are still pretty disorganized. So we need to find a direction and stick to it, we simply cannot have everyone running around doing their own thing all the time

RockstarRaccoon · Post by **RockstarRaccoon** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:17 pm

Did you guys just do a whole arc about....
...A skunk's glands being removed? O!o;;

Keeshah, would you mind just... like... Fast-forwarding through that bit? It's kinda weird, and me and Esper don't see its purpose in the general narrative...

LovingCorgi · Post by **LovingCorgi** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:40 pm

What do you have in mind? I'm willing to do anything.

MrNeonShot · Post by **MrNeonShot** » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:02 pm

Hutch and Oreo will be out of it for a few ign days...
Which IRL is like, 4 months, if you think about it.

Post by **Hlaoroo** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:04 am

You've brought this up before, Esper. Do you have a specific direction you'd like to take us? You are the GM after all. If not, then does anybody else have any suggestions?
By direction, do you mean that you have some specific arcs that you'd like us to do or that you want to set a specific tone for the narrative? And if you just mean setting a specific tone then that still leaves us a lot of wiggle room so I think the only way to stop us doing our own thing is to give us some specific arcs to follow.

The other thing is that life is disorganised. In the real world people are always doing their own thing to some extent so replicating that in the RP does bring a bit more realism to it. I do understand how it can tend to make the RP a bit confusing and hard to follow though and I appreciate that you're trying to simplify things and keep us from toeing the line too much.

I agree that I'd like this RP to remain a light-hearted and friendly one and I think we as a group need to brainstorm ways to keep it that way.

Keeshah · Post by **Keeshah** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:30 am

Esper wrote:Hey guys, I'd like to say that we need to tone it down and pick a direction. RA can brush up against the rating level quite often, and we are still pretty disorganized.

Are you going to step up an take the lead in the RP storyline and plotting?
I may have missed it, But i have never seen you take the lead, or throw in a plot twist to the story.
While we are willing to do the storyline you might want to do, we all have absolutely no idea of what that might be..

All we see is one line posts in the RP, and complaints in the OOC.
perhaps it's time to step down as GM of RA, in favor of someone who can run it better?

Esper wrote: So we need to find a direction and stick to it, we simply cannot have everyone running around doing their own thing all the time

Why not? Everyone else seems to be able to handle the multiple goings on with out any confusion.

Welsh Halfwit · Post by **Welsh Halfwit** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:46 am

My tuppence. If it's your feeling that we pushed the rating then you're quite right to bring it to our attention to be resolved. Keeshah may have a point in that direction needs to come from above but we need 'free will' to go where we go within the boundaries of plot and that's something uncontrollable by GM and our own responsibility. One minor thing. I must be getting old if the Skunk thing's pushing boundaries. Most of the people in my class had read at least one of the works of James Herriot by age 10 and, although comedic in places, they never held back from the harder stuff.

Oh and I am moving on my personal bending of the rules as you see - I hope.

MrNeonShot · Post by **MrNeonShot** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:46 am

This is all I could think of to say...

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Esper · Post by **Esper** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:15 pm

This is no longer a complaint, what I'm saying is an official edict. When I say we need a direction, I mean we need both arcs and a governing tone. The arcs don't have to massive and they don't have to be life changing, but they do have to be something that is a defined event that one can follow. The tone must exist to have an over all guideline for events, having one group bouncing off the walls while the next is wrapped up in procedural drama is just dissonant. So we all need to decide on what exact kind of overarching mood for this neighborhood will be. I vote for light-hearted with a chance of spooky things

And Keeshah, we need it because, as the one in charge, I said so. The only reason I don't exert full control over the storyline is because I know how easily that can backfire. I am an avid roleplayer on and offline, and I know how having an all-powerful person controlling the game can either make a huge mess or make the game too difficult to play, and that's only with one single party to watch over. Tell me, would you rather I pick up every character and put them through an ordeal of my own design and you don't get a say, or would you rather there be smaller events for smaller groups of your own design?

And it doesn't matter what you are used to outside of this forum, there are some things that are simply not allowed here, an example being an kind of detail of a surgery as it happens, or an extensive talk about death. And I would be all for a darker atmosphere if that were the mood the whole RP were to take. While small infractions here and there have always been permitted, we simply cannot go ignoring the rules as a whole.

Richmond Acres was not originally designed to keep and hold players, it was the assumed beginner's circle because of it's simple design, people came in and left just as quickly. In trying to keep with that, I've been trying to let players be as free as they can, but that is no longer appropriate, there must be order. In the past, I have thrown in plot twists and so forth, in the early days of my being in charge, before you guys took a permanent place. I think you, Keeshah, may be the only person left from that time.

Also in the past, I have asked the more permanent folks to present ideas for arcs, but that nearly always fell through because once they were chosen, they were never implemented, so I'd like to ask you all one more time. Please present at least one idea for an arc, whether it be large or small. I will start: a group of characters decide to explore the woods, find the grasslands, decide to camp and explore, and then find something out there, maybe an old shack with neat stuff, or some kind of spooky lake.

That is all I have to say so far.

MrNeonShot · Post by **MrNeonShot** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:35 pm

Nicely summed up.
I know Hutch is going to be retired from his adventures, but maybe he can finish the underground tunnel exploration?

Post by **Hlaoroo** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:13 pm

I like your idea for the mood, although I wouldn't mind a little moodiness every now and again for realism (like John and Hutch's discussions), but I'm not sure I share your concern about the dissonance. Are you intending that every character goes around in one large group? Although I am relatively new to roleplaying, one thing I have learned from the RPs on the forums is that if every character is in a giant group together than there are just too many people in one place for everyone to get a decent go at RPing. I've found it's best to have several smaller groups so that everyone has a chance to have their say. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though. I also agree with Keeshah in that following two or three or four groups like we are now is not exactly difficult. It's no different to what one would do whilst reading a novel. I'm also confused as to why this has suddenly become such a pressing need because in the (almost a) year that I've been here, it's really only been the last few months that this need for direction has apparently become an issue, if I remember correctly, and before that it seemed, to me at least, that the RP was doing just fine.

I think, Esper, that what Keeshah meant was not that he wants a dictatorship, because you're right, that would be no fun. Rather, I think he wanted for you to explain exactly what your intentions and concerns were so that we could deal with it and now that you have done exactly that, I for one, appreciate it and look forward to working through and resolving them.

As to the surgery, while I agree that it was pushing it a little, it could easily have been a lot worse and I think that it was still reasonably within the forum rules, especially considering the things that some other RPs such as Edge City get away with, and considering the fact that nothing that we wrote there was especially graphic. I understand your concern, however, and will refrain from posting any more medical procedures aside from the odd routine check-up or non-graphic treatment of an injury.

I'm not sure what you're intending by informing us of the history of RA. Are you suggesting that you want a change of players again or that you want it to be more like it used to be?

As to ideas for arcs, the tunnels are an obvious one as well as the history of the house. I can't just have John backflip and let everybody in though so I'll need to get a specialist in there somehow. We could also do something with the ghost that Sixtoes found. As to the grasslands, you've always said you wanted us to leave that for you to work out, Esper, so that's what we've always done. Other ideas... I want to have a bit of romance developing between Piper and Lucky and probably have Flynn help with it like he promised Lucky he would. Now that I've introduced Phil I can do that. Beyond that I don't have anything just at the moment. I've always loved the spontaneousness of RA though and how it's been a bit unpredictable because I think that adds a little realism and fun to it.

Whilst I think about Sixtoes, actually, I must point out that Argent has informed me that he still feels unable to keep up with the RPs so he'll be leaving us again for the foreseeable future.

Esper · Post by **Esper** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:44 pm

Of course some moodiness is allowed, and I never said that I wanted to move away from the small groups, but realism isn't my concern. My concern is that RA just happens, it's entirely freeform, which is why I suggested that we change the environment a bit way back when. When I told you about the history of this neighborhood, I was trying to put into perspective exactly why I want a direction. Since RA is no longer a revolving door, it's time to develop a story because now people are sticking around, I only realized that a few months back.

I know it isn't difficult to follow either, but that isn't the problem. The problem is just what I said above: RA is freeform to a very high level. This doesn't allow for the neighborhood itself to advance. If there are no defined stories happening, then the place stagnates and shifts into a sole focus on the characters and an endless string of troubles that follow them. Without a story, it's easy to just start throwing problems and drama at a character to keep things moving because they don't have another plot point to reach.

Again I'm not shooting for realism here, realism was never what this place was intended for, what many of the RPs here were intended for. Realism is all fine and good, but after a point, what is there to do? Just sit and eat and chat? That is an element that is fine to keep, but it should not be the only element to RA.

Unless the basic components of RA are to change, a 100% scattered plot is not something I will accept.

Thank you for your contribution to the list of possible plot arcs, so far we have the exploration of the tunnels, a romance, and camping.

The fields will be mine to control, if anybody actually goes there.

Kateleo007 · Post by **Kateleo007** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:13 pm

I think a ghost arc would be a fun idea. My idea for an arc would be that the pets' owners go missing, but the abductor leaves a clue with a riddle telling them their owners are in the abandoned city, so the pets wander the woods until they find it. Once in the city, the pets discover more riddles and puzzles until finally they find their owners all in one room eating dinner or whatever. Turns out, the owners were just playing a practical joke on them and they were fine the whole time, they all would've returned home before dark whether the pets found them or not.

MrNeonShot · Post by **MrNeonShot** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:38 pm

that last suggestion would be a bit awkward, considering Nadia's owner has just been kidnapped.

Post by **Serence Frostbite** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:42 pm

well it's still a suggestion , it's not like we would do it immediately , maybe after a while , or on a special occasion , Halloween or something

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:21 pm

Esper wrote:This is no longer a complaint, what I'm saying is an official edict. When I say we need a direction, I mean we need both arcs and a governing tone.

I've been running social RPGs since the '80s, and I don't think I've ever seen players create long term arcs without active and continuing GM intervention. If you want the structure of the game to change, you're going to have to take an active role in it.

Esper · Post by **Esper** » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:52 pm

That's a pretty neat idea! Also, if one group will be under tunnel exploration, who all would like to go and look for ghosts?

Post by **Hlaoroo** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:19 am

Thank you for explaining all that, Esper. I now understand where you're coming from and I can appreciate what you're intending to do and why.

I think the tunnel exploration is going to have to wait a little while because, as I said, John is adamant that he'll get an expert spelunker in to look at the tunnels first.

I've had some other ideas too. I think that the ghost at Winston House could be an ongoing thing rather than just a single arc. It can take them a while to work out that he's there and not just a picture on Sixtoes' phone, after which they have to work out who and why he's there. During this time the ghost can wreak havoc upon the household.

We can also do arcs for Halloween and Thanksgiving and Christmas as well as NYE. I've been thinking for a while of having the Porter's throwing a huge party for NYE and inviting all the pets and owners around.

There's also Joan's pregnancy. That'll obviously be lasting for quite a while and will definitely have a large impact on the Porters.

A neat variation on Blick's idea is that it could lead to a surprise birthday party for one of the pets.

69eist · Post by **69eist** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:27 pm

Okay..... Well I have a few questions.

1. Are the pets going to continue into smaller groups as discussed or into larger groups?

2. What are the proposed ideas that have been nominated for the theme of RA? (I'm not exactly comfortable with the idea of ghosts and a spooky atmosphere. I'm bad at this stuff and I don't think I'll have much fun trying it.)

3. Would it be a good idea to assign leaders every arc for the groups formed in RA?

4. I agree the RA shouldn't be entirely free form and but how are we going to all maintain the theme of the neighborhood and link it to the different themes of the arcs. Like if we picked a light hearted with a little spooky theme, does that mean each arc has to have something to do with some sort of mystery? And does each group have to solve a different aspect of the mystery?

My concern is that RA might end up being a little more of work rather than play depending on the theme we pick. I don't think I can handle too many arcs like this. I'm only back for now because I was informed through pms but I'll also be left behind because of the sudden changes going on. It's intimidating.

LovingCorgi · Post by **LovingCorgi** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:18 pm

I'm going to try to stay out of this dispute and just go along with what ever happens.

Keeshah · Post by **Keeshah** » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:46 pm

Esper wrote: I vote for light-hearted with a chance of spooky things

I vote for a serious occasionally dark drama of an King type arc, greatly over.

the whimsical light-heartedness of a grape & peanut or Spot type arc :/

Esper wrote:That's a pretty neat idea! Also, if one group will be under tunnel exploration, who all would like to go and look for ghosts?

Wont we need Cinnamon with his special camera, to do ghost hunting? since that is currently the only way to detect them in the RP.
An since Argent is on leave again, Cinnamon is not going to be around again.

Post by **Serence Frostbite** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:10 am

may I suggest something ? I think that we would all agree that not all of us would prefer the same theme , so how about we just switch between options ? Just for variety ?

Post by **Hlaoroo** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:28 am

That's what I was thinking. The comic is never all in the same theme. It jumps from darker arcs to light-hearted fun and back again and it never feels dissonant. Why can't we emulate that? I also think that having the light-hearted parts running at the same time as the darker ones provides some comic relief and breaks the tension a bit. I recommend watching shows such as NCIS or Bones and seeing how they do the darkness overlaid with humour so it's always fun. I'm not saying we shoudl become a crime drama but I think we can work on using comedy and humour to break the tension so that even though we may be having dark arcs it never feels overwhelmingly dark. Just like King's parts with Pete in the comic.

MrNeonShot · Post by **MrNeonShot** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:08 am

Crime drama is perfect!

Welsh Halfwit · Post by **Welsh Halfwit** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:11 am

Well, Holmes - even Rabbit ones - need crimes to stop them going nuts...

Keeshah · Post by **Keeshah** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:02 am

Hlaoroo wrote:That's what I was thinking. The comic is never all in the same theme. It jumps from darker arcs to light-hearted fun and back again and it never feels dissonant. Why can't we emulate that? I also think that having the light-hearted parts running at the same time as the darker ones provides some comic relief and breaks the tension a bit. I recommend watching shows such as NCIS or Bones

CSI Miami so the pets can do the sun glasses thing?

Esper · Post by **Esper** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:21 am

69eist: yes we will stay in small group, small arc format. The proposed arcs are tunnel exploration, a romance, camping, looking for ghosts, exploring the town history, and a birthday party. Am I missing any?

As for having the the juxtaposed light/dark themes, that's what we have now. I still think that there ought to be a governing mood for the entire RP to help guide people's actions as they advance. Having two moods going at the same time works fine if they are in direct contact in the same setting, but that is not how they are here. Here there's a dark group doing and saying dark things while there's a light group doing the opposite far away. Break tension in a situation by having things happen in that situation, not a mile away. It might work that way in the comic, but keep in mind that it only focuses on one group most of the time and each new story arc is a clean slate. If you can put forth a method of doing this that's different than what we have now, I would like to hear it. Maybe it'd be better than what I could think of to do.

Gee I hope that didn't come off as rude or angry 0~0

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:40 am

Keeshah wrote: Wont we need Cinnamon with his special camera, to do ghost hunting? since that is currently the only way to detect them in the RP.
An since Argent is on leave again, Cinnamon is not going to be around again.

They're not ghosts! They're quantum memory artifacts!

Post by **Serence Frostbite** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:34 am

Keeshah wrote: CSI Miami so the pets can do the sun glasses thing?

what ? the YEAAAAHHH! thing ?

Esper wrote: As for having the the juxtaposed light/dark themes, that's what we have now. I still think that there ought to be a governing mood for the entire RP to help guide people's actions as they advance. Having two moods going at the same time works fine if they are in direct contact in the same setting, but that is not how they are here. Here there's a dark group doing and saying dark things while there's a light group doing the opposite far away. Break tension in a situation by having things happen in that situation, not a mile away. It might work that way in the comic, but keep in mind that it only focuses on one group most of the time and each new story arc is a clean slate. If you can put forth a method of doing this that's different than what we have now, I would like to hear it. Maybe it'd be better than what I could think of to do.

What we have right now , two groups doing two completely different and unrelated things is because up until now we don't really have much "plot" to decide first , everything is very spontaneous , and very random , so things like this is kind of a given . If you want to "fix" this , then may I suggest an easy way for that . We need something that's big enough to impact everyone of the pets , for example a mystery and/or paranormal case (just an example) . this will most likely lead everyone in the same direction , in this case solve the mystery , while some might choose to go around the place , looking into libraries gather information to solve it the "logical way" , others might want to just get out there and face whatever it is with a more direct approach , and there you go , we have 2 groups doing different thing with different "feels" to them , yet heading toward the same goal , these two group might even stay connect to each other through you know , telephones or something.

That is the IC part , the OCC part has 2 things I wanna mention

First is that in order to do this , one of us , either you , the GM , or someone else who's leading that particular arc ,need to keep up with all of us , and regularly posts with a at least a detailed enough post , because he/she would needs to control everything that involves other players' interactions , the environment , the mysterious phenomenons , the NPC's dialog , random monster encounters.......wait no scratch the last one . Because frankly , except for myself , we all here are a very creative and imaginative group , without someone to take care of those things for those arcs , we might just go from "they go into the dark tunnel , without the light of the torch to show the way" to "and then a skeleton pops out" in 0.5 seconds

. But anyway yeah , the first important thing is whoever in charge of that arc have to be active , be able to keep up with the rest of us , and provide as much details as possible describing things in his/her posts (although I think I'm the only female here and I'm never gonna do this sort of things ^^' , but...) so the others could have something to work with , and of course keeps things interesting.

The second is at the arc selecting phase , in order to prevent everyone doing too many things , I suggest that, before a new day starts , after the last arc ended of course , one of us would propose his/her general ideas , it doesn't , and probably shouldn't , go too much into details to avoid spoilers . After this idea was approved , then we can get start . By suggesting/announcing these ideas in the OCC before it actually happens , everyone would know what to expect and there for have less chance to accidentally go off road .

One more thing , I said above that we need at least 1 of us to control each arc , but the thing is that it's a LOT of work for one person , and here is why I said we shouldn't go into too much details when we suggest these ideas : except for the suggester , and the GM (you) for approval , there should be at least 1 more person to know these details (which can be discussed through PMs) and help out in controlling the arc so no one would be overloaded , but aside from that the rest shouldn't know much about it , it leaves rooms to improvise you know. For example , over Applegate , before The Moon Howler and CrystalineWolf sudden disappearance , we were doing a petnapping arc , with Howler , Brent , Crystal and Vale control each of the 4 bad guys .
and that's my loooong suggestion for you , just hope that it doesn't sound like I'm trying to tell you how to do your job , because I'm not ^^" , and don't worry you didn't sound angry at the last post

Argent wrote:They're not ghosts! They're quantum memory artifacts!

so....ghosts ?

Post by **Hlaoroo** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:48 am

No, that was good. Thank you for that, Esper. I can see now the difference between what I was thinking and what you were intending.

I also agree with Serence and I think that she has hit upon what you've been saying, in that having set plots which are agreed upon by the group will also help us stick to the tone we intend to keep. I still think, though, that just as the comic has differing tones in order to appeal to a wider audience, so too should the roleplay, although I now understand that we should have a single tone at any one time rather than juxtaposing them. My vote is that we have a variety of arcs with a variety of tones and themes but avoid the juxtaposition that we have now by sticking to a single tone per arc.

I feel also that I should post this. From talking to the other players it seems as though this is a bit of a consensus on the way we feel. I cannot say that everybody is in agreement over this and I will not name names or indicate who agrees and who doesn't as I with to avoid finger pointing, name calling and more bad feeling. Suffice to say that a sizeable portion of the players have agreed with the sentiments expressed below.

The general consensus is that while we would like Esper to take a more active and involved role in GM-ing, he also needs to take a more active role in playing. We liked to have the wiggle room and freedom that the old style gave us but we also understand that some direction and plot is required. We don't, however, appreciate being told that these changes are simply "because I said so" as this feels exclusive and dictatorial. If a major change like this, which affects the whole roleplay for the foreseeable future, is to be implemented then we would like to know the reasoning that brought said decision about and we would like to have input on said decision making process. We understand that as a GM, Esper has the right and the authority to make decisions but we, as players, feel that we have a right to be involved in the decision making process, especially considering that we will be expected to abide by said decision in the future. We would appreciate if, in future, our input is sought before the decision is made rather than being expected to abide by the decision in hindsight. We appreciate that Esper is now endeavouring to step up to the plate and we encourage him to take a much more active and involved role in the RP and in GM-ing in the future.

Since this consensus was reached, you have explained your reasoning a lot further, Esper, and we appreciate that, however we would appreciate in future being involved before the decision was made and implemented.

I hope this post has not appeared rude or subversive in any way, shape or form as that was never my intention. We respect your authority as a moderator and as a GM. I feel, however, that it is important that these concerns be brought to light so that they can be addressed rather than being left to fester and cause friction or worse further down the track.

Esper · Post by **Esper** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:35 am

Forgive me for how I've acted about this change. I really dealt with it pretty badly. Right now I cannot address everything you have said, but I will be able to once I get home. I hope we can find an acceptable and amicable solution.

Edit: I would like to further apologize for my failure to be as active as needed. To be honest, leadership roles are not a talent of mine

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:00 pm

serence ice fox wrote:
Argent wrote:They're not ghosts! They're quantum memory artifacts!
so....ghosts ?

"Ghosts" are superstitious nonsense! "Quantum Memory Artifact" is much more precise and scientific!

MrNeonShot · Post by **MrNeonShot** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:03 pm

Not nonsense, really. Just tortured souls Dammed to walk the earth for all eternity
Hutch! What is wrong with you?!1

Post by **Hlaoroo** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:32 pm

Esper wrote:To be honest, leadership roles are not a talent of mine

Leadership is a skill like any other. To become effective it must be honed and practised. You are, as yet, young and inexperienced and that is nothing to be ashamed of. Part of being a leader is being able to acknowledge your shortcomings and failures and another big part of leadership skills is being receptive to the needs of those you lead. I thank you for your willingness to do both those things and to address these concerns and I look forward to working with you to find a solution.

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:28 pm

MrNeonShot wrote:Not nonsense, really. Just tortured souls Dammed to walk the earth for all eternity

Don't be silly, there's no evidence that they're more than a kind of picture.

Esper · Post by **Esper** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:48 pm

Ah, a skill I have yet to master... Though I will be trying much harder in the future to be a more active member here.

I would like to say that I've really been overeating a lot to a lot of things that really are not issues at all, I am really, really sorry for that... I'm sure that must have been quite an ordeal to have gone through 0~0. However, we have made a lot of ground towards what I would actually like to have taken care of: the organization of arcs. Are we all agreed that we will generally stick to small group + individual arc per group, save for big events, but with more well defined storylines? Are there any details that I'm missing?

In addition, should I move on from 69eist's house? 69eist? It would be hard to have an active character when one is waiting on a reply.

I am going to go and do some editing to the OP now, so please let me know if there is anything you personally want added or removed. Definite additions will be the movie theater and derelict rail station, as well as new characters.

A new map may even be in order

LovingCorgi · Post by **LovingCorgi** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 4:24 pm

I think we should start an arc soon I can't keep Koa still any longer.

I wanna go down the hole.

Koa... John said no.

Well then how come everyone else gets to go down the hole.

Because they're not injured and lately you've been pretty unpredictable.

I'll show you unpredictable.