2018/03/23 - The Send Off

Macsen · Post by **Macsen** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:21 am

The demon is cute. I have a feeling it will be kinda like Harvey and Ness in Savestate: desiring to be malicious, but not really.

TeflonCougar · Post by **TeflonCougar** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:35 am

Maybe the demon can be used as night security at the mansion.

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:55 am

So, maybe the demon will close the gate by drinking the rest of the mana pool, and turn into a huge new problem on this side this time!

TheOne · Post by **TheOne** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:28 am

Argent wrote:So, maybe the demon will close the gate by drinking the rest of the mana pool, and turn into a huge new problem on this side this time!

Or a fluffy new housepet...
By the way, I laughed when I read today's update. It's been awhile since HP has made me laugh, so I really enjoyed this!

Herseio · Post by **Herseio** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:43 am

I thought Eudoant believe that Keene was a damned soul, but in this case... punish a dead sinner will be boring at long?

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:22 am

Euodant: We will dance and eat and sin and you will do improv comedy based on suggestion from me for all eternity.

Gregourii · Post by **Gregourii** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:46 am

Keene's Reaction to the... generous... offer: NOPE.jpg

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:36 am

Wait until Karishad meets the little imp guy..... Whoo Hoooooo!!!

TheSilverFox51 · Post by **TheSilverFox51** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:47 am

NHWestoN wrote:Wait until Karishad meets the little imp guy..... Whoo Hoooooo!!!

Chaos shall reign!!! And puns, puns are cool too

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:06 pm

....and on another note (b flat), how would Keene send the imp back to Pandimonium? The portal's closed. Keene may not know how or have the power. Wonder how the Celestials will react to the little scamp?

...and Eudoant' will wring his scrawny little dino-neck!

Frank · Post by **Frank** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:35 pm

I'm just sitting here thinking how hilarious it would be if Res's giant were-tiger status doesn't wear off when they leave the temple on account of the mana he's absorbed

...wait a minute, if the sword is dripping green... and Eudoant's feet are green... does that mean his feet had a piece cut off at some point?

Arel_Grim wrote:See all you need is a bit of motivation and you can achieve anything

That sounds like something Rattigan would say

Ryusuta · Post by **Ryusuta** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:14 pm

NHWestoN wrote:....and on another note (b flat), how would Keene send the imp back to Pandimonium?

I don't think he plans to. Again, it would be kind of a di- err... messed-up move to do something like that to a friend, even if they are a demon. Neel has never done anything wrong to Keene. His only crimes thus far are being weird and being a demon, dood.

Edit: Oh, sorry! I misread that as how WILL Keene send him back. My mistake. ^^;

NHWestoN wrote:The portal's closed. Keene may not know how or have the power. Wonder how the Celestials will react to the little scamp?

Judging by Breel's willingness to cooperate with the little guy, probably pretty open-mindedly.

jonas · Post by **jonas** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:26 pm

Let's just hope that Keene's new little pal is just a harmless ~~digimon~~ imp and not anything much bigger or more dangerous in disguise.

Y'know, like the Devil or something...

Cesco · Post by **Cesco** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:04 pm

Good, you two are already near the portal, but hurry up to go away from there! Actually, the little demon gave a good suggestion.

Ehm, yours it's not a good deal, Eudoant, better refuse it.

Now seal the portal, Res, and keep The Forgotten to his place!

What can go wrong now?

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:16 pm

Cesco wrote:Now seal the portal [...]

Have there even been any seal characters?

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:34 pm

Maybe in a zoo sequence but I don't think so.

MX682XM · Post by **MX682XM** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:27 pm

Eudoant should suggest forgiveness without a whip in his hand

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:14 pm

Yeah, holding a whip does undermine your compassion credibility. Unless, like Dutchess, Eudoant just wants to take cuddling with Keene in a less snuggly direction. But I don't think that's her main motive.

Ryusuta · Post by **Ryusuta** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:45 pm

The whip is for FORGIVENESS torture, silly. They torture you in a very forgiving way, dood. X3

House42 · Post by **House42** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:39 pm

Aha! I see the Joestar Secret Technique being applied beautifully here.

I knew there'd be an opportunity in the comic at some point for me to pull that one out of my little box of JoJokes

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:01 pm

Eudoant probably doesn't get many snuggle buddies like Keene ... or unlike him, either.

guest67 · Post by **guest67** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:30 pm

I thought the Demon was gonna somehow turn out to be the Kobald from 2 Temple 2 Crashers since they bear some resemblances, but now that it made it to Earth with Keene and it still looks pitch-black and demony I guess I was incorrect. :/

Champion Wallace · Post by **Champion Wallace** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:11 am

I can't decide if Demon is an honest soul that wants to leave Pandemonium for the same reasons as Keene (Pandemonium looks like a terrible place to live) or if it works for Eudoant and everything that happened to Keene in Pandemonium was part of his plan to get an agent into the world of the living.

Adoring Fan · Post by **Adoring Fan** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:15 am

Champion Wallace wrote: I can't decide if Demon is an honest soul that wants to leave Pandemonium for the same reasons as Keene (Pandemonium looks like a terrible place to live) or if it works for Eudoant and everything that happened to Keene in Pandemonium was part of his plan to get an agent into the world of the living.

I sort of suspect he is doing this on his own accord. Honest soul sounds like a likely streach however it IS a demon. I have this feeling that he wanted out because he has his own evil plans. Just how bad those plans are however is hard to say. I also feel like he might end up as a sort of Harvy from save-state type character.... I cant decide if he will get along with Kasharid or be a rival of sorts though.

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:21 am

This worries me:

Ryusuta · Post by **Ryusuta** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:06 am

Argent wrote:This worries me:

I'm still vouching that this is an example of the demon being WEIRD, but that it's still very inconclusive about it being evil. I'm really pushing hard not to judge a book by its cover on this one.

I mean, if demons were automatically evil and dangerous by default, don't you suppose that Breel would probably have at least hesitated somewhat about cooperating with it? Yes, I'll grant that there wasn't much time to argue, but they had no idea how short time was until they saw Res.

I definitely feel like I'm attempting to be Phoenix Wright (Prinny Wright...?) with this character, but I really need to push hard on the "innocent until proven guilty" angle. Even (and maybe especially) when it comes to demons, dood.

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:52 am

Demons, by definition, are not innocent (although the ancient theologian, Origen, believed they could experience redemption through Divine Mercy). Basically, you do a deal with a devil, there's usually a razor blade in the candy dish. Regards.

Ryusuta · Post by **Ryusuta** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:29 am

NHWestoN wrote:Demons, by definition, are not innocent (although the ancient theologian, Origen, believed they could experience redemption through Divine Mercy). Basically, you do a deal with a devil, there's usually a razor blade in the candy dish. Regards.

Certain Disgaea characters would like to have a word with you, dood. >.<

In terms of IRL religion/mythology, there are a LOT of different interpretations of demons. The Greeks considered demons (AKA daemons) as somewhat interchangeable with demigods and often benevolent. And these aren't different beings; rather, the interpretation of the belief in them changed over time, which made it so that-

...Okay, this is getting complicated. Let's stick to the comic's universe.

It's simple: if there can be angelic/celestial beings in this universe which are... if not evil, then at least inconsiderate and selfish (read: Cosmic Nerds), then there can be good demons who don't actively try to harm anyone. Rick is extremely good about making his characters multi-faceted and complex. That's one of the things that's so appealing about Housepets. I don't think he'd make a character not named Bino irredeemably wicked. (That was a joke. Calm down.) Even Pete eventually apologized for what he did, and he was probably the most antagonistic character in the series up to this point.

The point is, I don't think Rick would make a character like this just to make it evil and nothing else. What would be the point? No, I think that Neel is here for a reason. Maybe I'm just projecting because I like the character so much, but I really think that he needs to be given a chance; up to and until he's proven to be evil. Because if ANYONE... even a demon... is presumed guilty until proven innocent, then justice has no meaning.

If Neel breaks my heart and becomes fully evil or causes a catastrophic event (I'm not gonna count random bouts of mischief), then I'll concede that I was mistaken. But until that happens, it deserves at least a chance.

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:10 am

You ARE projecting, doo'od, and that's okay. I'm not quite so dogmatic or obtuse not to notice that all Rick's characters, given enough time, become increasingly more complex and sympathetic (or, at least, forgivable for their foibles). I also am well aware that it's Rick's world and I'm a guest only.

I was, however, merely stating a caution and, at the same time, a possible alternative albeit narrowed to a Christian historical context. I like to keep my messages relatively terse. I really don't want to take on the IRT community because I left out someone's favorite figure.

Actually, like you, I'd like to see the little guy develop in a (hopefully) more positive direction. He also has real comic potential. I like to see Eudoant again, too. But that doesn't always happen in Rick's world. And, like you, there are other minor characters I'd hope to emerge further such as weve seen with Dallas and Lester recently. So, we'll both see, I guess.

Regards.

Argent · Post by **Argent** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:07 am

Pretty sure that's not a Christian heaven King and Fox and Keene visited. Though God as a great whale would be awesome.

Ryusuta · Post by **Ryusuta** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:01 pm

Either way, I think we can all agree the character has been a lot of fun, dood. <3

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:39 pm

.... and he's not going away.

Douglas Collier · Post by **Douglas Collier** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:43 pm

Neel: Evil, probably not; mischievous, definitely. I figure he’s just gonna try to be a normal earth denizen, but fail a bunch, with humorous results.

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:48 pm

Like Ryusuta pointed out, the lad's got possibilities. And I'm not sure Eudoant's shut out forever, closed portal or not.

Ryusuta · Post by **Ryusuta** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:53 pm

NHWestoN wrote:.... and he's not going away.

I hope not, dood. He's fast becoming my favorite character. And that's saying something. <3

GameCobra · Post by **GameCobra** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:54 pm

I would find it amusing that the black demon dude turns out to be a black cat.

Valareos · Post by **Valareos** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:22 pm

Neel will always be a kobold to me....

And I love kobolds... Go Neel!

Vuk91 · Post by **Vuk91** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:28 pm

So far, Pandemonium, and it's demonic residents only put my interest back in one of my first stories to be put back into action, since it does include demons.

TheSilverFox51 · Post by **TheSilverFox51** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:22 pm

Macsen wrote:The demon is cute. I have a feeling it will be kinda like Harvey and Ness in Savestate: desiring to be malicious, but not really.

lol, a week ago I wouldn't have known what you were talking about, but I agree, the lil' guy seems harmless enough.

NHWestoN · Post by **NHWestoN** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:03 pm

He does like torture, though.... Well, everyone needs a hobby.