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Title Text: All I can tell you is no, they're not Kari's

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Calling it right now. They're both Dragon and Pete.
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*In singsongy voice* THEY'RE BAAAAAAAACK!
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Saturn381 wrote:Calling it right now. They're both Dragon and Pete.
The eyes match, so I'm gonna go with yes!
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I honestly thought he would not bring those two back for a very long time, that is, if ever. They look older than three and a half. So are these the cubs Jessica was referring to?
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I wasn't expecting them to come back at all to be honest.
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Craig and Draig, nice to meet you. I think you'll fit in Babylon Gardens. You kinda remind me of two certain fellows hehehehe
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I don't think they're 'back' per se. I think Rick just wanted to end the 'where are they' talk. These two may now vanish for years. Or have an arc on their cubhood adventures at some point.

And there we see the terror twins
and we’re pretty sure we know ’em.
Sticking together through thick and thin,
with adventure if Rick's to show ‘em.
Adorable beyond the devilish Dragon
and the cuddlesome conniver there too.
As Keene thinks the game is done
and our Sabrina’s all, like, boo hoo.
Evil, it seems, has never been so cute
and temptation is left in their way.
Kitsune left the two linked, it seems
and we may see them again someday.
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And GK made them foxes, because of course he did. :lol:
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Yeeeeeeeeeesssss!!!! *_* oh my god they're back!!! This is the best day ever, i've been waiting for them for soooo long.... Welcome back dears <3
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Its the eyes.......


I am very surprised that they showed up so soon or in this form at all even. I actually expected them to show up as immortals again and be like "Subjective time remember? We may also be currently living among you but we came back to the current time after to ensure those lives would be very VERY accommodating". Or that we would find out that they were actually some of the current characters. I mentioned that theory a while back.

I cant say this is an unwelcome surprise. The story arcs have gotten a bit more focused as time has gone on but still leave us surprised every now and then.
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Wait... I don't get it, dood. Dragon and Pete weren't supposed to remember who they are.

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This is definitely an improvement for both of them, though. Wonder where they came from.
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Reading that, Kitsune left it ambiguous. He IMPLIED they'd not remember being immortal but what he actually SAID indicates a possibility he meant they won't remember being MORTAL after their punishment is done or that the specific part of sixty years is blocked.
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I don't know... That seems like a really reaching interpretation of what Kitsune said. But I suppose we'll see!
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What an unexpected twist.... I thought this arc is over.
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Wait a minute. If the theories are correct and these two foxes are Pete and Dragon, does this mean that Karishad might also be a former deity being punished for crimes against Humanity/Heaven?
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Another Temple? .... Oy vey!
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Something I'm wondering that was left ambiguous is the question of parents. Did Cerberus find an (unsuspecting) pregnant mortal to give birth to the reincarnated demigods or were they dropped off as babies in the woods? If it's the former then how would their "parents" react to their newborn's claiming to be demigods (or at least having adult capabilities if they kept their past a secret) and would they have any mortal siblings? If it's the latter then how would they avoid being snatched away by an eagle?
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Yeah, I know. I'd just kinda like a respite from temple spelunks for a while but ... okay, it's Rick's world. Let's "wait and see". (Hmmmm.... who else says that all the time....?)
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The poor mother fox that had to put up with these two... Hopefully Kitsune gives her a special place in heaven after that.
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Douglas Collier wrote:The poor mother fox that had to put up with these two... Hopefully Kitsune gives her a special place in heaven after that.
I'm not totlly sure there's a mother in the picture. Remember Jessica referred to Fox Cubs. No mother mentioned. Babes in the wood may apply.
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Ryusuta wrote:Wait... I don't get it, dood. Dragon and Pete weren't supposed to remember who they are.
Kitsune's words weren't about their memories of demigods at all, he doesn't bring it up at all in that panel. He's talking about specifically how long they have to live. That's to close a loophole of them knowing the exact length of their sentence and so basically ignore their own mortality.
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rickgriffin wrote:
Ryusuta wrote:Wait... I don't get it, dood. Dragon and Pete weren't supposed to remember who they are.
Kitsune's words weren't about their memories of demigods at all, he doesn't bring it up at all in that panel. He's talking about specifically how long they have to live.
He's a fun little twister, isn't he?

Kitsune, I mean.
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Hmm, "draig" is Welsh for "dragon"…

And "craig" is Welsh for "cliff". Or it could just be a normal English name :)
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Draig looks more masculine than Craig. Then again, Craig could just be scrawny.
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At first I had no idea what was going on, then I noticed their eye colors omg you guyyyyyys! I love this comic so much.

It's always a little hard to tell in the HP style, but Dragon looks male? Does that count as first trans character, or does being reborn stretch the definition?

Also, it looks like they've been planning something to do with the Temple, before it was destroyed. Trying to get their celestial bodies back?
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okay since no one brought it up here yet where we may get an answer... why did Keene take of his collar between strips?
also I very much love this reveal. I'm ready for 2 years of temple crashers 3 :3
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I find it interesting ya'll are fixated on the eyes as your reason why these two are Dragon and Pete and not the information from the dialogue like: they know about the "Sources of Unspeakable Power", one has a temple in Egypt, the right one has an abrasive personality, mortal is an unusual condition for them and they would otherwise have superpowers. Even if you don't know Welsh, Draig is clearly derived from Dragon. As for conjecture, I think they spent the time from their reincarnation trekking to Babylon Gardens (unfortunately for them) just in time for Pete's temple to be destroyed. They are trying to use the leftover mana to either reverse their punishment, or if that's not possible, make their lives much better. They can use the mana without any word-shatering consequences because they have practice (any time they used it for its intended purpose in the game). I wonder how strictly the 60 year minimum would be enforced. If they step in front of a train with they be "lucky" enough for it to just so happen derail and miss them?
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Champion Wallace wrote:I wonder how strictly the 60 year minimum would be enforced. If they step in front of a train with they be "lucky" enough for it to just so happen derail and miss them?
no they'd be lucky enough it was either going slow and someone finds them and nurses them back to health, or someone pushes them out of the way, or they never get near a train track at a time a train is about to go over it cause "fate" held them up
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It would be funny if Rick revealed they actually are Kari's. :p
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...Oh boy this should be interesting
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Xane wrote:Wait, I thought they weren't supposed to have any memories of their celestial lives...
Yeh, that.
Champion Wallace wrote:I honestly thought he would not bring those two back for a very long time, that is, if ever.
I was kind of hoping they would be a permanent brick joke in waiting.
They look older than three and a half.
They still look like cubs, and we know that at six Pit didn't look any younger than the rest of the ferrets, so you can't judge animal age by human age.
So are these the cubs Jessica was referring to?
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rickgriffin wrote:Kitsune's words weren't about their memories of demigods at all, he doesn't bring it up at all in that panel. He's talking about specifically how long they have to live. That's to close a loophole of them knowing the exact length of their sentence and so basically ignore their own mortality.
*sniff* *sniff* smells like a retcon.
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Argent wrote:*sniff* *sniff* smells like a retcon.
Nah. Taking advantage of past ambiguity, maybe. Seems more like a lot of people either forgot what was actually said in that strip (it's been a long time, so that's understandable), or people just misinterpreted what Kitsune said as being more straightforward than it actually was.

The way the old strip is written, grammatical clues point us toward this conclusion--that he was referring to them not remembering the mortal lives once they end--but most people probably just assumed he meant they wouldn't remember their immortal lives because it's a more standard way of doing things like reincarnating in popular fiction.
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Great Kitsune wrote:What did our two contestants win? Why, a no-expenses-paid vacation to mortality, which will last a minimum of sixty years -- though they won't remember (it's all in the contract)
(In other words, they won't remember how long their life span is set to.) Just because the meaning doesn't jump out immediately, doesn't mean that wasn't the original intent. No retcon necessary.
Now, why Rick hasn't cleared this up at any point prior to now while we've all been misconstruing the meaning is anyone's guess. :P
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I assumed that Kitsune meant they wouldn't remember their time as mortals once they become celestials again...also I guess this means Cory and Trinket were red herrings
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I can't tell if they're still Bro and Sis, or if Dragon is now a Boy...

Also, I guess this debunks the whole 'Skunk Guy is a Fused version of them' theory? I mean, GK was wearing a Yin-Yang Symbol when he sent them...

Lastly, they remember who they are. I guess that's good too? But why wouldn't they be allowed to remember their time as Mortal? That's what throws me off here...
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Another thought: Mr. Steward/Badger to a duck when Karishad showed up, perhaps concerned that he might be recognized from their former interactions in Keene's offices. Now that may have just been paranoia on his part, but ... might he have sensed that the fox could have blown his cover? If so, might Karishad also recognize Pete and Dragon in their new guises and expose them to their "many rabid fans" in BGardens?

Sorry, bad choice of words, "Rabid".
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MrBlueSky7 wrote:I can't tell if they're still Bro and Sis, or if Dragon is now a Boy...

Also, I guess this debunks the whole 'Skunk Guy is a Fused version of them' theory? I mean, GK was wearing a Yin-Yang Symbol when he sent them...

Lastly, they remember who they are. I guess that's good too? But why wouldn't they be allowed to remember their time as Mortal? That's what throws me off here...
Read what Rick said. It's the fact they're mortal FOR SIXTY YEARS that they don't remember.

Incidentally, Draig in Welsh is pronounced more like Dryguh. (In South Wales anyhow)

Speaking of Steward, Pete is now in the same house as that coin. That CAN'T be good.
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Hahaha yessss. I have waited so long for these two to return. I am so excited to see what hijinks they get up too.

Also, not going to lie, I honestly expected them to be humans. I don't particularly know why, it's Housepets!, for cods sake.
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I'm honestly curious why so many people think Dragon's foxy reincarnation is not still a female. There aren't really many distinguishing features between male and female in the HP! style, and especially so when the characters are as young as Dragon and Pete's new bodies are in the most recent strip. In general, the designs of characters are fairly androgynous, and I think that's at least somewhat intentional.

I mean, it's certainly not impossible, but I can't think of any particular reason to speculate purely based on the design. Either way, I'm sure we'll find out for sure soon enough.
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