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Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:20 pm
by Douglas Collier
Keene: "..."
Breel: "Untangle tangled slinkies, of course! On the side I work as a slinkie untangler!"

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:27 pm
by DolopODog
Douglas Collier wrote:I work as a slinkie untangler!
That's an adorable title for a weasel masseur!

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:30 pm
by tsMKG
What a nice background ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

(Sorry, I felt that a degdeg was needed)

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:44 pm
by Argent
Civilization wrote:Or what the other ferrets are taking of Keene being gone. Or whatever they are doing, heh.
Given how time passes in Heaven, it could be no time at all on Earth.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:42 pm
by justacritic
Or Keene's constantly blushing because of a lack of really significant social contact and now he has a bunch of it dumped on him? From the comic, the ferrets don't seem to have friends or emotional connections except for each other and their owner. (I assume.)

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:45 pm
by Douglas Collier
justacritic wrote:Or Keene's constantly blushing because of a lack of really significant social contact and now he has a bunch of it dumped on him? From the comic, the ferrets don't seem to have friends or emotional connections except for each other and their owner. (I assume.)
Well, he did spend a few months at the ferret exhibit at the zoo. :P

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:55 pm
by Unusuallynamedperson
He was okay at the wedding ceremonies when he 'vested his power'. And was pretty social when he confronted King for the first time.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:02 pm
by Bucky-Roo
Wait a second....

Who still uses slinkies in heaven?! WE GOT SMARTPHONES

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:21 pm
by RandomGeekNamedBrent
Bucky-Roo wrote:Wait a second....

Who still uses slinkies in heaven?! WE GOT SMARTPHONES
yeah, but it isn't as fun when your smartphone falls down the stairs.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:24 pm
by DolopODog
Bucky-Roo wrote:Wait a second....

Who still uses slinkies in heaven?! WE GOT SMARTPHONES
Those stairs though! Who could resist?

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Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:51 pm
by Frank
Alright, since I'm surprized no one has suggested it, to a ferret a slinky is a potentially infinite shiny long narrow tube, and ferrets love crawling through those, especially if they can still see the outside while doing so

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:59 pm
by Adoring Fan
Douglas Collier wrote:I'm just going to pretend that Breel just wants to play a game of Twister.
For heaven's sake (literally), please stop pushing the PG rating in our minds. :P :(
Lets not kid ourselves here... A death in the main cast, a clear innuendo, and a new cast-member who is most likely gay. We are deep into PG-13 territory already. Not nearly at the level of many other generally clean Anthropomorphic comics (whose names i will not mention here out of respect for Rick Griffin). But we have already crossed the PG limit.
DolopODog wrote:
Bucky-Roo wrote:Wait a second....

Who still uses slinkies in heaven?! WE GOT SMARTPHONES
Those stairs though! Who could resist?

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Indeed... The ultimate slinky staircase... It puts smartphones to shame :D and besides... Keenes love of slinkies is already known ;)

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Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:04 pm
by Internaldialogue
Stop giving me things to ship ;~;

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:28 pm
by Obbl
Adoring Fan wrote:Lets not kid ourselves here... A death in the main cast, a clear innuendo, and a new cast-member who is most likely gay. We are deep into PG-13 territory already.
All of that is actually quite PG. Everything thus far has been rather tame ;)

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:00 pm
by Travis Retriever
"What do I do until then?" Rick, did you seriously make a Ren & Stimpy reference? XD

I would post a video for those not in the know, but I can't find it...basically, they end the show with a fourth wall breaking scene, Stimpy gets upset and asks when they'll be back.
Ren responds with, "In a little while man!"
Stimpy: "In a little while? What do I do 'til then?"

Never pictured you (Rick) as a Ren & Stimpy fan. XD

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:01 pm
by Silverseren
Adoring Fan wrote:Lets not kid ourselves here... A death in the main cast, a clear innuendo, and a new cast-member who is most likely gay. We are deep into PG-13 territory already.
The first two, perhaps, though that's highly dependent on the context and how it is done. Plenty of PG shows and films have a cast member die, for example.

But, why would having a gay cast member make it not PG?

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:19 pm
by Unusuallynamedperson
Silverseren wrote:
Adoring Fan wrote:Lets not kid ourselves here... A death in the main cast, a clear innuendo, and a new cast-member who is most likely gay. We are deep into PG-13 territory already.
The first two, perhaps, though that's highly dependent on the context and how it is done. Plenty of PG shows and films have a cast member die, for example.

But, why would having a gay cast member make it not PG?
I'm going to sit out on the debate between PG or not, but how do we even know that's what Breel was talking about? He also could have been referring to something else that we aren't thinking of. After all he looks feral to me, he probably has feral ideals, maybe he invited him to an all out nature festivity. Or it was a picture of a burning building, no?

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:26 pm
by Adoring Fan
Silverseren wrote:
Adoring Fan wrote:Lets not kid ourselves here... A death in the main cast, a clear innuendo, and a new cast-member who is most likely gay. We are deep into PG-13 territory already.
The first two, perhaps, though that's highly dependent on the context and how it is done. Plenty of PG shows and films have a cast member die, for example.

But, why would having a gay cast member make it not PG?
I would say it depends on where your from. Where i live gay cast members alone would be considered inappropriate. Its a touchy subject because of how religious groups view it. Plus with all the forced legislation coming from the supreme court in the US... Homosexuality is a very very touchy subject for a lot of people both on political and religious grounds.

Hot button issues tends to equal a PG-13 rating. *shrugs*

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:32 pm
by Obbl
Well, in the US at least, having gay characters is not an automatic PG-13 rating. Death as a narrative device is also fine, as is innuendo (if it's done well, I assume)

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:07 pm
by Sleet
Gay characters (and gay whatever) is exactly as family-appropriate as the straight counterpart.

Though I do think this is a bit suggestive for Housepets! standards, if you want my opinion! *shrugs*

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:05 am
by GameCobra
Parents fears back then were that their kids would not grow up to be like them because of said relations that are displayed on Television. growing up to be modeled after said couples. While that's understandable, that's really not a excuse in my opinion to hide it. They just gotta understand it better.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:09 am
by D-Rock
Wait, with everything being said, I've had an idea;

Slinky races using the Stairway to Heaven, and the ferrets are inside said slinkies! That'd be epic to see!

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:10 am
by SuperStar
Um, so. When I first read this I didn't notice Keene's blushing, and thought that the picture was of something relating to Heaven. And that Breel's "was hoping the pic would give you an idea" was as in " dude, you're dead, hahah!"
But now I read the disscusion and re-read the comic. So, yeah.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:41 am
by AmberTheWolfKit
Silverseren wrote:
Adoring Fan wrote:Lets not kid ourselves here... A death in the main cast, a clear innuendo, and a new cast-member who is most likely gay. We are deep into PG-13 territory already.
The first two, perhaps, though that's highly dependent on the context and how it is done. Plenty of PG shows and films have a cast member die, for example.

But, why would having a gay cast member make it not PG?
Well, if you want to get technical, Rick already hit on gay vibes with Bruce and Roosevelt. They're pretty affectionate with each other, and if I'm not mistaken the bit of dialogue they have on the plane alludes to them dating.

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Now, I could just be reading into this a bit too much, but even the wiki says this isn't the first time we've gone into hinting homosexuality before:
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But yeah, weather you think they're dating or not, you can't deny that hinting that same sex couples happen has happened in the comic before! :D



But as for the slinky thing.... yeah that's pushing into mature! :oops:

Unless "tangled slinky" refers to the two just cuddling, or Breel giving Keene a massage and "untangling" him...


Or it is what... well, what you think it is! ;)

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:37 am
by Argent
Unusuallynamedperson wrote:He was okay at the wedding ceremonies when he 'vested his power'. And was pretty social when he confronted King for the first time.
Those were really both business situations, and he was all about being in control. What he's missing is casual social contact with actual friends.
Frank wrote:Alright, since I'm surprized no one has suggested it, to a ferret a slinky is a potentially infinite shiny long narrow tube, and ferrets love crawling through those, especially if they can still see the outside while doing so
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Sleet wrote:Though I do think this is a bit suggestive for Housepets! standards, if you want my opinion! *shrugs*
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Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:32 am
by Adoring Fan
The slow motion pillow fight was suggestive only in a vague way. Peanut is clearly "aroused" by the idea but it go's no further than that and Peanuts feelings for Grape are pretty well established. There have actually been several obvious occasions of peanut fantasizing about grape as a love interest but it all stays as just that. Peanut being lovesick... The slinky thing is a much more direct innuendo and is clearly more along the lines of actual "acts" vs just thinking someone is attractive. The fact that Keene is blushing and uncomfortable is an obvious indicator of that and leads me to believe that the "Tangled Slinkies" comment is likely not whats really on the screen and is just a way to make a joke of the situation..

But yeah Your comment about the kangaroos is very well put... Anything between the kangaroos beyond just dating is left to the reader however while the slinky comment is sorta "in your face".

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:40 am
by Not A Furry
Do we really have to do this every time something is remotely suggesting a gay relationship?

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:22 am
by IdleCurator
NoSoyFurry wrote:Do we really have to do this every time something is remotely suggesting a gay relationship?
That's just the fun of forums.
It gives us things to discuss and sometimes leads into other topics. Like when we were debating Cory's gender. That turned into a very interesting discussion about naming conventions regarding flowers and herbs.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:09 am
by schradieck
IdleCurator wrote:
NoSoyFurry wrote:Do we really have to do this every time something is remotely suggesting a gay relationship?
That's just the fun of forums.
It gives us things to discuss and sometimes leads into other topics. Like when we were debating Cory's gender. That turned into a very interesting discussion about naming conventions regarding flowers and herbs.
Looks like i'm going to enjoy it here then, :)

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:20 am
by SuperStar
Argent wrote:Image
And I still don't get that one, xD

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:41 am
by hypernovatic
I'm already shipping Keene and Breel.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:28 am
by Unusuallynamedperson
Because nobodies asked yet, how did Keene die? Did he choke on the slinky he was playing with, was he electrocuted, did he fall off the mansion patio, or was it a power point presentation?

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:07 am
by Argent
Unusuallynamedperson wrote:Because nobodies asked yet, how did Keene die? Did he choke on the slinky he was playing with, was he electrocuted, did he fall off the mansion patio, or was it a power point presentation?
This has been brought up, the best suggestion I've seen is that he fell into a mystic portal that Karishad sort of accidentally created when he was messing around with stuff from the Temple.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:25 am
by BasedDook
SuperStar wrote:
Argent wrote:Image
And I still don't get that one, xD
When someone is aroused or excited sexually, one way to get rid of those feelings is to take a "cold shower". Basically, Peanut got turned on at the thought of seeing Grape and the other cats jumping around in the hay and hitting themselves with pillows in slow motion (similar to slumber parties seen in teen romance films), that he has to jump into the pond to calm himself down. It was a pretty suggestive joke, but no more so than this one and I've definitely seen/heard worse in PG comedy movies.
Adoring Fan wrote:The slow motion pillow fight was suggestive only in a vague way. Peanut is clearly "aroused" by the idea but it go's no further than that and Peanuts feelings for Grape are pretty well established. There have actually been several obvious occasions of peanut fantasizing about grape as a love interest but it all stays as just that. Peanut being lovesick... The slinky thing is a much more direct innuendo and is clearly more along the lines of actual "acts" vs just thinking someone is attractive. The fact that Keene is blushing and uncomfortable is an obvious indicator of that and leads me to believe that the "Tangled Slinkies" comment is likely not whats really on the screen and is just a way to make a joke of the situation..

But yeah Your comment about the kangaroos is very well put... Anything between the kangaroos beyond just dating is left to the reader however while the slinky comment is sorta "in your face".
I disagree. Both of the strips you're talking about have a clear sexual element but remain vague enough that the reader could come away with a more innocent take on the comic. I believe another poster commented saying that maybe Breel just intended to play or massage Keene, while another mentioned that it's possible mustelids just enjoy playing with slinkies (which they do!). I don't think there is anything out of place in a PG comic here or at the very least, anything that we haven't seen before in a Housepets comic. We've had suggestive jokes before, we've had gay relationships before, and themes that are typically considered dark, like death and loneliness, have been discussed in a light and comedic tone.

Personally, I support the inclusion of gay weasels and a possibly bisexual Keene. We're finally getting more character out of him than just wanting to live in his owner's footsteps and being the borderline villain at times. He could definitely use some more romance and moral development in his life and I think Breel could bring that to him. If I remember correctly, Keene still has his personal bit of mana and I wonder if when this arc is over and he's spent the four months or so with Breel in heaven, he might want to bring Breel with him. Or, perhaps he can only use the mana to bring himself back to life and he rededicates his life to trying to be a better person so he can then spend eternity with Breel. There are a lot of possibilities here and I'm interested to see where Rick takes these characters from here.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:35 am
by Adoring Fan
NoSoyFurry wrote:Do we really have to do this every time something is remotely suggesting a gay relationship?

Actually i would say everything said so far has been pretty tame. Noone has been derogatory or started a stupid flame war. Its just sort of arbitrary talk of weather this counts as PG or PG-13 which is sort of a minor difference anyway.

Xane wrote:
Argent wrote:
Unusuallynamedperson wrote:Because nobodies asked yet, how did Keene die? Did he choke on the slinky he was playing with, was he electrocuted, did he fall off the mansion patio, or was it a power point presentation?
This has been brought up, the best suggestion I've seen is that he fell into a mystic portal that Karishad sort of accidentally created when he was messing around with stuff from the Temple.
I figure Karishad accidentally plugged his tail into the wall. Or he had a stroke from another uptight weasel tantrum.

Hey if Keene doesn't want marten snuggles I'll take 'em. Martens are so soft an fuzzly.

My money is on a stroke from Karishad :P

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:39 am
by Unusuallynamedperson
wait...what would a karishad power point even look like? :shock:

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:46 am
by tsMKG
My money on Karishad messing with the electricity pole (arc 98) and Keene trying to fix it.

Anyways, we discussed that in the first strip of the arc.

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:19 pm
by Saturn381
Oh Breel, you're such a flirt.

Also, hey guys! I'm back! :D

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:25 pm
by Adoring Fan
Saturn381 wrote:Oh Breel, you're such a flirt.

Also, hey guys! I'm back! :D
Sabrina! XD

Re: 2016/04/18 - Weasel Words

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:37 am
by Naro Rivers
BasedDook wrote:If I remember correctly, Keene still has his personal bit of mana
I don't think so. Unless Karishad was given a bit of mana himself (or he just summoned it, since the universe bends to his will), Keene's mana was used to send Satau back to the past in Housepets! 5000 BC.