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tsMKG wrote:Here goes my version of the backstory: Some dogs hunted her when she was young. When she was captured, the dogs put her in a cage and bullied her. But fortunately she escaped and when she returned home, she started to train to be stronger. She would knock out everything that was on her ways.
...And then after three long years of grueling physical training she discovered two things: The first, she had gone bald; and the second, she was so strong that nothing could stand in her way, as they were all defeated in ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!!!!!!

I REGRET NOTHING! :lol:
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HAHA...what? how does a snake punch? :|


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I still don't see hunting as controversial. The animals still hunt just the same, we've seen confirmation on that already. Humans still eat meat, so food production using animals is still a thing, so why is hunting off-limits? Also, I believe the controversial topic was the existence of fur farms, which are technically not hunting.

And pollution just because they do those things? Granted, we can safely assume that, but it's a massive stretch. Unless the hatred was for the general population and not them specifically, because let's face it, a huge chunk of us are like that, myself included.

Boss characters that have been submitted so far are as follows;

Nue and Olde: nue (yes, that's what the creature he's based off of is called)
Blu-e: raccoon
Jenny: mouse
Tybalt: cat
Efran: rabbit
Nevermore: raven
Reinhardt: fox

NPC characters that have been submitted so far are as follows;

Alex: dog
Blanc: cat
Clayton: rooster
David: donkey
Esperanza: snake

... :shock: oh dang, I just need an NPC that starts with "F" to keep a trend!! :lol:
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tsMKG wrote:Here goes my version of the backstory: Some dogs hunted her when she was young. When she was captured, the dogs put her in a cage and bullied her. But fortunately she escaped and when she returned home, she started to train to be stronger. She would knock out everything that was on her ways.
...And then after three long years of grueling physical training she discovered two things: The first, she had gone bald; and the second, she was so strong that nothing could stand in her way, as they were all defeated in ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!!!!!!

I REGRET NOTHING! :lol:
...sad thing is, my first exposure to that dude was an Undertale parody. Person, he's referring to the character and show called "One Punch Man."
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Wow, I am way too uncultured. :oops:

I'll start updating stuff asap.
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Unusuallynamedperson wrote:Wow, I am way too uncultured. :oops:

I'll start updating stuff asap.
It might be easier if you just expand on the wiki.
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tsMKG wrote:Here goes my version of the backstory: Some dogs hunted her when she was young. When she was captured, the dogs put her in a cage and bullied her. But fortunately she escaped and when she returned home, she started to train to be stronger. She would knock out everything that was on her ways.
...sad thing is, my first exposure to that dude was an Undertale parody. Person, he's referring to the character and show called "One Punch Man."
If we keep that as her backstory, though, somebody has to make a OPM joke. :lol:
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It might be easier if you just expand on the wiki.
Not untill they're fully layne out, it is easier this way for me, because it is right in front of me all of the time and can be uploaded relatively any time that I want. Plus I don't need an internet connection to do it. Then I also don't have to edit the Wikipedia file, afterall this is only for us really.
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Unusuallynamedperson wrote: Well they do live with humans, and interact with them in ways like turning on televisions. And King did turn on a furnace once so yes.
OMG! He is the king of pollution, xP

Anyways. On topic, did I miss something before about this snake character? I mean, she seems to have come out of nowhere, what is her purpose in the game exactly?
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That is exactly what we are trying to figure out.
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If you're talking about the cobra, it's a design that Person drew up a little after I submitted Esperanza, the blue snake. Now we're trying to come up with a backstory for it.

As for Esperanza herself, I imagined that she would come to a team of pets to help her. I had the idea that she would know a lot about everyone as she always observed them, being fascinated by the lives of humans and their pets. This would be her first time interacting with them.
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:o

I'd completely forgotten about that!

But it seems to be missing something, what does she need help with? Obtaining an object maybe?
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Her initial problem was the fact that her home was invaded by followers of Nue, so she would seek the aid of pets that she knew were already combating him.
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D-Rock wrote:Her initial problem was the fact that her home was invaded by followers of Nue, so she would seek the aid of pets that she knew were already combating him.
Check it over, not everything is correct yet.

I still have a little to do so it is more accurate, but now new joiners don't have to read through a hundred and one pages of thread in order to figure out the character statistics.
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Actually, maybe people not looking through the thread is a good thing. More surprised with the game.
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Plus quicker production, thinking outside the box! :P
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By the way, please find a new way to post your lists. You could even post it here publicly so that we could all take a look at it in one place. My anti-virus goes crazy when I try to download your list.
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Sure, I have been meaning to test out a new feeder later anyways. But, you may want to give me a few days until that, 'till then
NPC characters that have been submitted so far are as follows;

Alex
GENDER: Male
CREATURE: dog
TYPE:

Blanc
GENDER:
CREATURE: cat
TYPE:

Blu-e
GENDER: Male
CREATURE: raccoon
TYPE: ????

Clayton
GENDER: Male
CREATURE: rooster
TYPE:

David
GENDER: Male
CREATURE: donkey
TYPE:

<Efran>
GENDER: MALE
CREATURE rabbit
TYPE:
a wild rabbit living in the outskirts of Babylon Gardens. As the chief rabbit, he’s

had his fair share of combat. Over his life, he’s developed a hatred of predators,

and for this reason he’s gotten as strong as he has. He has been able to fight off

several over his lifetime, but they have always escaped before he could finish them

off. His entire warren shares a militant lifestyle, and none of them are to be

trifled with. He has recently made a deal with Nue; grant him more power to take the

fight to the predators, and he and his warren would be loyal to Nue and Olde.

Despite liking Efran’s idea, even they were hesitant to grant him his power, seeing

how remorseless he already was, but granted it in the end. Efran has set his sights

the wolf pack living in Babylon Gardens, to show that none would stand in his way,

even those protected by humans.
<Reinhardt>
Creature: fox
TYPE: Avatar, Boss
Nue and Old'e's avatar, he has purple eyes and does not really like normal house

pets.

<Tybalt>
GENDER: MALE
CREATURE: cat
TYPE: BOSS

<Nue and Olde>
GENDER: Potentially male
CREATURE: Nue
TYPE: MAIN BOSS
Old'e is Nue's tail, these two are attached to eachother as major DnD players and

are using Babylon Gardens as a platform for their game.

Jenny(OC)
GENDER: FEMALE
CREATURE: mouse
TYPE: Boss, OC
A minor OC charectar the gang has to fight, she is later eaten by grape and may be

shown late on in the credits as being in Grape's stomach under an X-ray.

<Nevermore>
CREATURE: RAVEN
TYPE: BOSS
GENDER FEMALE
A rather malevolent raven with a silver tongue. She knows just what to say to get

others to do as she wants, yet never needs to resort to lying. Said skill has

managed to get her the upper hand in nearly any possible threatening situation. Not

a single individual she’s crossed paths with has been able to keep from being used,

though she craves actual authority. Upon coming upon Nue and Olde, she spun a way to

get said power, possibly over multiple species, by making a deal with them that

truly only benefitted her. Nue and Olde may not have fallen for her ability to

speak, however.

Primary Hero: Bino
Secondary Heroes: Keene, ???, ???

<Musicians of Bremen>
A group hailing from Germany. They have been on tour for some time now, after being

accidentally discovered by an agent during a talent show in their home town. They

were good enough to be brought into show business. They enjoy moderate success in

the places they visit, though they often just perform for charities. However, a stop

in River Ridge has not gone to plan; their instruments were discovered to be

missing, but they couldn’t give the impression of bailing to look for them. They’re

going to need help in finding them.

<Esperanza>
CREATURE: snake
TYPE: OC SIDE CHARECTAR
Her initial problem was the fact that her home was invaded by followers of Nue, so

she would seek the aid of pets that she knew were already combating him. she knows a

lot about everyone as she has always observed them, being fascinated by the lives of

humans and their pets. In the game she is depicted as interacting with the

modernized pets for the first time.
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:?

Wow, rather cumbersome. I can already see a few things that need correcting, do that later. Could also be organized better, it's easy to get lost reading that. Good start, though.

So, twice, my anti-virus picked up maybe eight Trojans at once when I tried to download. Both times. Weird how it has no problem streaming things, but downloading is a massive issue. It normally doesn't do that more than once.
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It's 4Shared :P

They also have Mega-Intrusive ads on the mobile page.
They take you out of the download page (yeah, they don't let you download the thing) and send you to a page where you can't go back.
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Yes, their is a reason they call it 'freeware', and file hosting isn't normally an easy thing to do, no matter what you are in for a fight. Which is part of the reason I learned ASP.NET or XML, it really does help, I recently got back into one of my very old accounts because of it. :mrgreen:

And, no I didn't hack it although I could technically do that. And yes Rock, it is very disorganized, not really ready for much, but hey it is a newborn. :P
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Unusuallynamedperson wrote:Yes, their is a reason they call it 'freeware', and file hosting isn't normally an easy thing to do, no matter what you are in for a fight.
Well, MEGA's a lot better. Or Mediafire. Or Google drive. Or just use the attachment function of the forum! :P
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Not, for what I need it to do.

I am working on a Minecraft Mod, this dev thread, many different art works, I do tracks for the team, and I also need to be able to host without something being in my way. Plus supports all file extensions, and I know google drive does not allow for that. Besides I don't really support the mainstream companie's policies for a number of reasons.
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I'd just be happy for a site that won't overload my firewalls. At least it streams well.
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Unusuallynamedperson wrote:Not, for what I need it to do.

I am working on a Minecraft Mod, this dev thread, many different art works, I do tracks for the team, and I also need to be able to host without something being in my way. Plus supports all file extensions, and I know google drive does not allow for that. Besides I don't really support the mainstream companie's policies for a number of reasons.
*facepalm* Google Drive does allow any file extension (unless you're referring to see the file in the browser without need to download)

What's getting on your ways?
And what policies?

Edit: What's about DropBox? I none of them convinces you, then make your own server! :P
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I did, I do have my own server, but it the home one isn't on 24/7, and the one at the shop, well Wayne has that one filled to the brim and has asked me not to use it for file hosting. What did you think I do there?
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It's just a text file. If we need to reference it, you can pretty easily copy and paste it here. Or add an "OC" page to the wiki and just dump it there to update as needed. No real need to go through a content uploader for a .txt

So is character backstories the topic du jour? Cool, cool. Though I must ask: Are we going to put these characters somewhere on the storyline ever? It's still pretty empty as far as I can remember.
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It's not that it's empty, it's just that we don't know how long it is. That was my issue with just leaving the number of chapters open way back when; we're never gonna know how much is enough and just keep making ideas the whole time. Like, if we went off of the list we have now, we'd have a decently lengthed full game. We'd just have to sew it all together to lead up to the end. I mean I'm all for adding ideas if ya have em, but take it from me: the longer you make the game, the less of a chance said game will be made. :roll: I mean honestly if we're having issues with being able to store all this character data somewhere, I think that's a good indication that we have enough :lol:

Also on the note of this snake character (the cobra not the npc) are they a main villain or a random enemy, cause if they're a random enemy then why are we giving them a backstory? And if they ARE a main villain, isn't it kinda weird considering that half of the big bad of this game is a snake, and you also have to fight said snake alone in a dream? And then there's another snake but they're just an NPC. That's like 3 important snakes in one game :lol:
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UnusuallyNamedPerson wrote:
The 'make your own server' was sarcasm :P
What I say is that I don't like 4Shared.

Now let's get back to making the game.
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Trying to explain everything and put stuff in order, and yes I knew it was sarcasm, but I really do have an active server.

As far as I know their is only one snake Chaoko, that being Esperanza, if they're more then I need to know, because I did not see any others throughout the pages, also we have been talking about putting stuff on the Internet.

As per being unimportant, every OC on this thread has had a backstory. :|
So I am a little confused as to what you mean by that.
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Unusuallynamedperson wrote:As per being unimportant, every OC on this thread has had a backstory. :|
So I am a little confused as to what you mean by that.
I think what Chaoko meant is if the snake is going to be a random, common monster/enemy, why would it get a backstory? It's kind of like how we for the most part don't know why a bunch of random slimes (or most other monsters) attack the player in any other RPG.

Me, I think it'll be interesting to see how the new snake will be put in the story.
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D-ROCKS Initial idea was that she'd be an O.C. I believe, named Esperanza...
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Her initial problem was the fact that her home was invaded by followers of Nue, so she would seek the aid of pets that she knew were already combating him. she knows a lot about everyone as she has always observed them, being fascinated by the lives of humans and their pets. In the game she is depicted as interacting with the modernized pets for the first time.

So he'd already had set out a backstory for her. :)

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Okay, that file thing you posted is really cool, Person! Still needs correcting on some bits of information, but that can be done later.

Chaoko, note that I won't bother giving a backstory to random encounters. I was intending this cobra to be a boss character, otherwise I wouldn't have asked for input. And is it really a big deal for there to be three snakes? By the way, Person, Chaoko was referring to Olde, Esperanza, and this cobra.

And this is a "me" issue, but the game seems kind of short with what we have now. That's why I've been brainstorming these guys.
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Esperanza, and this cobra.
Did I miss something, I thought this Cobra was Esperanza, so shouldn't there be two snakes?!
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That why I was constantly referring to Esperanza and the cobra as separate characters.
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As for Esperanza herself, I imagined that she would come to a team of pets to help her. I had the idea that she would know a lot about everyone as she always observed them, being fascinated by the lives of humans and their pets. This would be her first time interacting with them.
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Nah, there's no problem with it, I just find it to be odd :lol:

With what you've come up with up to this moment, this actually is long enough of a game. As evident of the demo, each chapter should take an average of 30-60 minutes. As of currently, these are the possible chapter plot points
The First Chapter
Blu-e
Efran
Tybalt
Jenny
Nevermore
The Monolith
Teoxihuitl
Reinhartdx2 (or more?)
The Dolphin King
That Cobra
A base fight against Nue and Olde somewhere (never elaborated on that)
The fight against Olde
The final chapter
The Shadows and Barghest
*Note, these are all out of order and I may be missing some

That's and estimated 8-16 estimated hours just in the main game, as well as the epilogue which could take multiple hours to complete. Again, the only reason the game seems short is because we havent filled all the pieces of it. It's like comparing a empty milk carton to a full gallon of milk :P . Trust me, once we start actually having to write these chapters, it'll start feeling A LOT longer.
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If you're talking about the cobra, it's a design that Person drew up a little after I submitted Esperanza, the blue snake. Now we're trying to come up with a backstory for it.

As for Esperanza herself, I imagined that she would come to a team of pets to help her. I had the idea that she would know a lot about everyone as she always observed them, being fascinated by the lives of humans and their pets. This would be her first time interacting with them.
This threw me off.
So I guess her name will be Lacert then, and changing...

BTY, should I add a change-log to it just in case?


Please elaborate these.
The Monolith
Teoxihuitl
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So "Lacert" for the cobra? Everyone else good with that, or have another suggestion?

Make a change-log if you want, really.
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Goosephrabia, Goosephrabia...

Yeah, so could you give me the backstory to some of the cahractars I missed like Jenny, Alex, Blue-e, and Blanc, if that's okay.
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Unusuallynamedperson wrote:Please elaborate these.
The Monolith
Teoxihuitl
The Monolith is the boss of Chapter 5 in the Zoo. Main hero is fox, companions are the K-9 unit (except Fido). The Monolith is based on a one off joke in the Zoo arc:
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D-Rock had the idea to have Nue and Olde curse it to make the animals in the Zoo into random encounters (I think that was the summary? it was never clear but I assume that's the case). So you end up having to fight it in the end of the chapter.

Teoxihuitl (this is like, the fith time we've had to explain this to someone :lol: ) is the boss from a chapter where the party goes back to the cave that The Case of The Aztech Gold arc took place. Teoxihuitl, is the ghost from that arc:

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We don't know which chapter that is or who will be the main hero, all we know is that's where undead/ghost enemies are introduced. You have to rely on magic or elemental based attacks to damage them.
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GOTCHA, AND THANKS. woops caps lock
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The proposed heroes for the challenge against Teox was Sabrina and Fido, with the other slots being open for our selection at the moment. Sabrina for her ability to cast magic, Fido because he's had experience with Teox already.

I proposed a second part to the monolith boss as well, but it would probably be best not to go that route. See, I thought it would be inhabited by the spirit of someone else. Now, here's where things get really weird; I originally proposed that it be inhabited by Ptah, which would allow us to have a time-travel segment with Satau as a one-time ally. I have since dropped this idea. Still thought about making it inhabited by someone, then later one, we'd face off against them in the flesh. This part I'm still not sure on.

Regarding Satau and Ptah, Buster submitted weapons for our use, which I thought could be implemented in a different time-travel chapter; they could be Ptah's weapons. I have yet to come up with a full idea on that section, such as a boss and story, only possible chapter intro dialogue. I was thinking of looking into Egyptian legends and myths to fill that void, just haven't taken the time to do so.
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