Cursed coin ~ transformation theories

[Gameb18oy]

You’re going to have to trust me. I watched the stream.

Did you see any girl being talked about in the stream Fen? If you didn’t, then this is just a theory without any weight to support it. Also, L doesn’t restrict Marion from finding an animal partner in the slightest, he’s got puppy love at best with her considering his age.

[fenrirblack]

If you want to know about the any of that stuff, check the discord.

I’m not saying that Marion wont team up with an animal partner. More than likely “L” will be more like a goal or a connection to Marion’s human life. That is something that we haven’t seen before with the others which again makes Marion unique among the therianthropes. This is enhanced by the idea of having an animal partner. This is speculation at this point but depending on how Marion adapts he could be torn between the two worlds. I doubt this will happen but it comes down to Marion's overall role in the comic.

[Silly Zealot]

You’re going to have to trust me. I watched the stream.

Did you see any girl being talked about in the stream Fen? If you didn’t, then this is just a theory without any weight to support it. Also, L doesn’t restrict Marion from finding an animal partner in the slightest, he’s got puppy love at best with her considering his age.

Dunno, man. If he's got a driver liscence, he's at least 16.

Some people marry at that age.

[Amazee Dayzee]

I honestly cannot imagine getting married at 16.

[Silly Zealot]

Had a schoolmate who totally did.

So yeah, a 16 year old boy can totally get a girlfriend.

[Amazee Dayzee]

A girlfriend yes but a WIFE?

Also, don't you need parental permission to get married at 16?

[Silly Zealot]

*holding his arms defensively*
My point is that "L" is more than likely a girlfriend.....or a boyfriend....of Marion.

[D-Rock]

General reminder, perhaps DON'T bring up the fact that you're privy to certain currently-unreleased information if you were watching Rick's streams?

[fenrirblack]

I want to toss another theory out into the ring and say that IF it was not the coin's doing that made Marion a squirrel then maybe it was not a traditional transformation. Before with King and Steward and Thomas it was a normal "poof" situation but with Marion we have no evidence of what happened. He woke up and he was a squirrel. So odds are the coin was not involved because no matter how you look at it the odds of it being due to the coin are minimal at best. That leads me to think that there is a small possiblity could be something else like either a mind-swap from a distance or he merged with a squirrel that already existed at the time. This doesn't explain why or how but it is worth thinking about from different angles.

[NHWestoN]

Espionage experiment gone awry, mebbee?

[Keldor]

We have to remember that this is Pete's curse we're talking about. He has his sense of humor...

So if he wants it to wait until a particularly amusing moment before manifesting itself, he can do that. If he wants to have it add (remove??) a little bit extra just to troll Marion some more, he can do that too.

And if he wants the curse to have agency to do Pete-humor on its own without his intervention, he can also do that. He's a demi-god, for Pete's sake!

[Amazee Dayzee]

I would have thought that since he is no longer a demi-god but just a common fox kit, that his curses that he cast would lose effectiveness unless one actually TOUCHED the coin.

[NHWestoN]

Apparently, once the spell is implanted, the aura survives the fate of the magician. Of course, throughout history, people have always used coins to make "change".

[fenrirblack]

I want to discuss the idea of changing back. I mean I don’t think it’s been discussed in too much detail about the moral dilemma we have of playing with this much power. Kitsune must know that the coin is on Earth and now that the game and the temple are gone, why isn’t the coin gone as well? Tarot said it herself that heavenly magic isn’t supposed to fall into mortal hands. It’s fun too think about various characters changing into animals and Thomas and Steward both had it coming but what about the next rando who comes across it. Is it fair for Joe Next door to be turned into a prairie dog because Steward decided to use the coin? If that did happen then shouldn’t someone change them back?

[D-Rock]

Kitsune would probably select a "champion" to fix things.

[fenrirblack]

Kitsune would probably select a "champion" to fix things.

Annoying but on par considering Kitsune's style and that is usually how gods do things. Of course that must be why he's been playing with the geek squad lately. He must be planning to use them as his heroes.

[Lockely]

Kitsune would probably select a "champion" to fix things.

Of course, "fixing" things may not be the kind of "fix" the human characters want.

There's also the issue of the fact that there was way more than one coin there, the whole pile of treasure is cursed, and nothing buried in a ruin stays buried forever.

[fenrirblack]

Kitsune would probably select a "champion" to fix things.

Of course, "fixing" things may not be the kind of "fix" the human characters want.

There's also the issue of the fact that there was way more than one coin there, the whole pile of treasure is cursed, and nothing buried in a ruin stays buried forever.

That's assuming that everything in the temple didn't disappear along with the pocket dimension. Remember back at the beginning it was just one giant room until Pete was unleashed.

[Champion Wallace]

I want to discuss the idea of changing back. I mean I don’t think it’s been discussed in too much detail about the moral dilemma we have of playing with this much power. Kitsune must know that the coin is on Earth and now that the game and the temple are gone, why isn’t the coin gone as well? Tarot said it herself that heavenly magic isn’t supposed to fall into mortal hands. It’s fun too think about various characters changing into animals and Thomas and Steward both had it coming but what about the next rando who comes across it. Is it fair for Joe Next door to be turned into a prairie dog because Steward decided to use the coin? If that did happen then shouldn’t someone change them back?

Given how little we know about it, there aren't many possible answers to "how could they change back?" that wouldn't be consistent. If Tarot or Sabrina were apprised of the situation, they might be able to whip up a counter curse (or find someone that could on the astral web). Additionally, some countercurse scrolls might still be buried under the rubble.

Kitsune would probably select a "champion" to fix things.

So what you're saying is we need a Great Kitsune avatar ?
What I gathered was that most limitations on the demigods was either self-imposed as part of the game to make is fun/interesting or stemmed more from laziness than inability. The biggest indication of their powers's outside the game if I recall correctly was when Kitsune said "Despite the omnipotence, there's quite a few things that I cannot change--It's beyond my pay grade, as it were." which still doesn't clarify much.

[Amazee Dayzee]

I guess we could say that if Kitsune needed an avatar and chose one with permission to help fix this, that they couldn't outright fix it since this might be beyond Kitsune's ability.