Old Comic Discussion: "Imaginate" to "Imaginate, too!"

[Hipstar]

Rick Griffin: The master of depicting realistic financial allocation drama in artistic mediums.

*puts on sunglasses*

Yeah..

Do -not- start that meme here. It's dead in comments, it remains dead here.

I just realized that was a throwback to CSI Miami. Honestly unintentional, i just felt cool writing that sentence and needed the proper attire

next time i'll just use whenever i feel i accomplished something.

[Liam]

I wonder if they try to steal the ferret's money.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

[Two_Twig]

...OCEAN'S TWO
LOOKING FORWARD TO IT

I can't wait to see Rick's rendition of George Clooney

[Ebly]

...OCEAN'S TWO
LOOKING FORWARD TO IT

I can't wait to see Rick's rendition of George Clooney

Obviously the bald one is Clooney, and the girl is Pitt.

You can't have an Ocean's movie without those two in it so they must be the two ungrateful relatives.

[Sketcherofstuff]

Well, I'm disapointed that peanut and grape didn't get the spot light, but I am intrigued to see what's gunna happen to these two. (I hope that they don't just sit in that bar and talk about finances)

[Alex]

Well, I'm disapointed that peanut and grape didn't get the spot light, but I am intrigued to see what's gunna happen to these two. (I hope that they don't just sit in that bar and talk about finances)

I must say, we haven't had a Peanut and Grape arc since 1969, and... if this was the real world, they probably would just sit in the bar and talk about finances.

[Dylan]

Well, I'm disapointed that peanut and grape didn't get the spot light, but I am intrigued to see what's gunna happen to these two. (I hope that they don't just sit in that bar and talk about finances)

I must say, we haven't had a Peanut and Grape arc since 1969, and... if this was the real world, they probably would just sit in the bar and talk about finances.

But this isn't a real world is it?

[Hipstar]

Well, I'm disapointed that peanut and grape didn't get the spot light, but I am intrigued to see what's gunna happen to these two. (I hope that they don't just sit in that bar and talk about finances)

I think i can still sit though that. it would be like reading a webcomic that is exactly like 43.24% of my discussions with my father.

[Sinder]

Ugh, no wonder Rick doesn't draw humans, they're hideous.

[GameCobra]

was probably going to happen soon, but it looks like from an unexpected angle.

with the relatives making a stab at the money that the ferrets got with pretty much luck, and how the ferrets trying to use some legal loopholes in the system to do things right with Miles, they might have unexpectedly opened up another hole that takes a stab at the fortune.

I suck at these kinda things though, but it's the best i could think of in such short notice! XD

EDIT:

Ugh, no wonder Rick doesn't draw humans, they're hideous.

I think the woman sorta reminds me of Cruela Deville to be honest, but that's just me =P

[EchoFireant]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

[Thoth]

I'm rather amazed that they apparently didn't have twenty attempts to overturn Milton's will underway already. There are any number of law forms that would willingly pursue much more improbable cases for a chance at a share in fifteen billion in cash, even without counting in the value of the factories and such.

For that kind of cash, I'd expect the estate to be hearing from fourth cousins, distant relatives, and a thousand scam artists on a daily basis.

[rickgriffin]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

Don't tell me you haven't seen a rich old woman who's had so many facelifts she starts to look like a fish

[Hipstar]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

Don't tell me you haven't seen a rich old woman who's had so many facelifts she starts to look like a fish

other than sophia loren or charo, i haven't. but seriously this woman is gonna give me nightmares.

[EchoFireant]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

Don't tell me you haven't seen a rich old woman who's had so many facelifts she starts to look like a fish

Haven't seen one cause I seldom have the chance to associate myself with a rich old woman. At the times that I have , they seemed pretty nice and gentle. They remind me of my grandma

Unless you count in those with accidents that scarred their faces which facelifts and plastic surgery doesn't completely remove. Yes. :\

[Dissension]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

It seemed like a standard, cartoon-style "rich old lady" to me.

[Ebly]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

Don't tell me you haven't seen a rich old woman who's had so many facelifts she starts to look like a fish

I think they have a form of plastic surgery for people like that nowadays

[valerio]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

Don't tell me you haven't seen a rich old woman who's had so many facelifts she starts to look like a fish

Actually, never seen one on her way to become Freddy's nasty sister

[Dissension]

It's unfortunate that those relatives are so greedy. They seem to be well enough off that they don't actualy need the money; they just want it on principle. ("Those ferrets shouldn't have any legal standing, and in any case, I deserve most of the inheritance. Obviously.")

They're totally unsympathetic, and therefore not as strong as characters as Bino, Pete, or even Joel (now King and hugely sympathetic) are. It's impossible to relate to them, I think, which diminishes them just a little as bad guys. After all, most of us aren't greedy orphanage-landlords. Granted, the 'sympathetic bad guy' is overused. In fact, from that perspective it's kind of refreshing to see 'bad guys' I can't relate to. Hmm. I'll have to think about this.

[Sketcherofstuff]

What did I say?! See, I predicted the future.

[Ebly]

What did I say?! See, I predicted the future.

Two comics is not the whole arc
Let Rick have some time to get into the Hilarious Anticsâ„¢

[Hipstar]

It's unfortunate that those relatives are so greedy. They seem to be well enough off that they don't actualy need the money; they just want it on principle. ("Those ferrets shouldn't have any legal standing, and in any case, I deserve most of the inheritance. Obviously.")

They're totally unsympathetic, and therefore not as strong as characters as Bino, Pete, or even Joel (now King and hugely sympathetic) are. It's impossible to relate to them, I think, which diminishes them just a little as bad guys. After all, most of us aren't greedy orphanage-landlords. Granted, the 'sympathetic bad guy' is overused. In fact, from that perspective it's kind of refreshing to see 'bad guys' I can't relate to. Hmm. I'll have to think about this.

Humans are a very principled species. If something seems unjust to us, we well do anything to get it fixed. In that sense I can relate to these people because they feel slighted.

However, they are disgustingly greedy, so in a sense, they are just like most humans.

[Sketcherofstuff]

What did I say?! See, I predicted the future.

Two comics is not the whole arc
Let Rick have some time to get into the Hilarious Anticsâ„¢

look, i just hope that we atleast see peanut once. But then again, maybe even that is unreasonable. Okay, i just hope that we see the ferrets soon.

[Liam]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

Don't tell me you haven't seen a rich old woman who's had so many facelifts she starts to look like a fish

Does facelifting make people cross-eyed? <_<

But seriously, they look off-model except Baldie McGreedbag in the last panel. Maybe the two should wear balaclavas during the theft. ;3

The duo is painted as one-dimensional villains lacking any
redeeming features, but in this case I don't see that as something bad, because they're probably gonna serve as providers for some incompetent criminals fun.

[cooljoe224]

What did I say?! See, I predicted the future.

Two comics is not the whole arc
Let Rick have some time to get into the Hilarious Anticsâ„¢

Has Rick bought "Halarious Antics" i see you used the TM there. Am i gonna get sewed if i use halarious antics?

[Teh Brawler]

With the arc's name being "Ocean's Two", I'm thinking that the request will fail. Whether or not any Las Vegas Casinos will be involved, though, who can say.

[Kyderra]

With the arc's name being "Ocean's Two", I'm thinking that the request will fail. Whether or not any Las Vegas Casinos will be involved, though, who can say.

it can always take the "fear and loathing in las vegas" direction
MOER CATNIP

actually, a "this is bat county" reference isn't a half bad idea (and a good excuse to add bats into the comic)

[Teh Brawler]

it can always take the "fear and loathing in las vegas" direction
MOAR CATNIP

actually, a "this is bat county" reference isn't a half bad idea (and a good excuse to add bats into the comic)

Fixed. And for the life of me, I can't figure out what movie that quote is from.
If it's from Ocean's Eleven, I feel really stupid, but I haven't ever seen that movie all the way through.

[GameCobra]

Bino's dream mightbe a reality @_@

but then again...

[Teh Brawler]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Ocean's Two"? More like "National Treasure: Furry Edition"
No, seriously, it was really that funny

[Hipstar]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Ocean's Two"? More like "National Treasure: Furry Edition"
No, seriously, it was really that funny

Nick Cage would still star in it.

In other news, all of this financial strategy made sense to me

[Cipher]

Am I the only one who thinks the woman in the red coat vaguely resembles Hillary Clinton?

[Two_Twig]

Fixed. And for the life of me, I can't figure out what movie that quote is from.

That quote is from the movie "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" based off of Hunter S. Thompson's book, as Kyderra said.

[arcict]

the bald guy was ok. the other relative..um..quite deformed. No wonder they are ungrateful

Don't tell me you haven't seen a rich old woman who's had so many facelifts she starts to look like a fish

I woldn't really know, I don't look at women who look like fish...

then again, I don't really look at fish either...

when was the last time I even saw a fish anyway?

oh yeah, it was on a blistery cold night with the wind making it feel all the worse and we were out and about walking around the zoo for about an hour and we slipped into the aquarium building because it was close by, indoors and still open.

[machchunk]

I fear Rick might be putting himself in a precarious position by introducing almost every human with any characterization as a villain, specifically as a "midling villain" role. With the way Richard Adams did it in Plague Dogs and Watership Down, the humans had to be unfeeling phantom enemies most of the time to address the real life issues he wanted to talk about, while here it's a conscious story choice made of his own accord. This method could be pegged by outsiders as being a product of 'furry bias', and maybe even a dislike of people in general. I don't think that's the road you'd want to go down.

[Hipstar]

I fear Rick might be putting himself in a precarious position by introducing almost every human with any characterization as a villain, specifically as a "midling villain" role. With the way Richard Adams did it in Plague Dogs and Watership Down, the humans had to be unfeeling phantom enemies most of the time to address the real life issues he wanted to talk about, while here it's a conscious story choice made of his own accord. This method could be pegged by outsiders as being a product of 'furry bias', and maybe even a dislike of people in general. I don't think that's the road you'd want to go down.

yeah we need some good humans in this comic. i dont think rick really sees these people, or anyone in this comic, as solely good or bad. they all have good and bad in them.

[Thoth]

yeah we need some good humans in this comic. i dont think rick really sees these people, or anyone in this comic, as solely good or bad. they all have good and bad in them.

I suspect that the problem there is that the comic is centered on the pets as protagonists. Ergo, if Rick wants to bring in humans as major characters, he either needs to change that - which I hope he doesn’t want to - or they either need to be (1) turned into pets (that sounds familiar for some reason...) or (2) to be antagonists.

We already have plenty of “good” humans in the comic - the Sandwiches, Jeff, Ryan, Bill, and Jerry - as well as several whom we haven’t seen enough of to tell much, such as “Rex’s Dad” and “Daisy’s Mom”. Mr Milton seems to have been pretty decent too, although he may not count since he died without ever appearing in the strip.

Bill was a minor foil to the wolves for a couple of strips, but certainly seems - like most of the pet owners - decent enough otherwise. Joel was a bit debatable, but most of what we’ve seen of him shows a well-meaning fellow who’s depressive, traumatized, and easily led - not a villain.

For “villainous” humans we’ve had Sasha’s negligent owner and the overweight (and more than a bit crazy) PETA guy Now we have a pair who really want money and apparently (at least for one of them, although it’s vaguely possible that he was reluctant to foreclose on orphanages and was actually complaining about the fact that he was forced to do so) have relatively few scruples about getting it.

That’s not exactly epic villainy or all the humans in the strip being villains. It’s just a consequence of this being a strip about the pets.

[ndigit]

I fear Rick might be putting himself in a precarious position by introducing almost every human with any characterization as a villain, specifically as a "midling villain" role. With the way Richard Adams did it in Plague Dogs and Watership Down, the humans had to be unfeeling phantom enemies most of the time to address the real life issues he wanted to talk about, while here it's a conscious story choice made of his own accord. This method could be pegged by outsiders as being a product of 'furry bias', and maybe even a dislike of people in general. I don't think that's the road you'd want to go down.

Well obviously not all of them were villains, and as far as I've seen the humans who were antagonists in this comic seem very real. They don't act for the purpose of making animals suffer, that's just what they end up doing sometimes without really realizing it. And even if they do, we're pretty sure there's simply another side to their character we're just not seeing. Like Thoth said, we just don't see much about any of the human characters. So we really can't say anything more than what we know about them.

And 'furry bias' is just stupid.

[machchunk]

We already have plenty of “good” humans in the comic - the Sandwiches, Jeff, Ryan, Bill, and Jerry - as well as several whom we haven’t seen enough of to tell much, such as “Rex’s Dad” and “Daisy’s Mom”. Mr Milton seems to have been pretty decent too, although he may not count since he died without ever appearing in the strip.

That’s not exactly epic villainy or all the humans in the strip being villains. It’s just a consequence of this being a strip about the pets.

Ok, so how many of those people have as much characterization as the villains?

I made it a point to include "with characterization", I don't want that to just slip past every reply

I suspect that the problem there is that the comic is centered on the pets as protagonists. Ergo, if Rick wants to bring in humans as major characters, he either needs to change that - which I hope he doesn’t want to - or they either need to be (1) turned into pets (that sounds familiar for some reason...) or (2) to be antagonists.

It's about pets, nothing more. The main characters in this case aren't really protagonists, they are just the characters the comic revolves around. There's nothing stopping Rick from creating bad animals, and nothing stopping him from creating good humans.

we just don't see much about any of the human characters.

That's partially my point.

And 'furry bias' is just stupid.

It has some justifiable applications but yes, in this case it is wrong.

[Dissension]

"trapped in editing room send help;&" *laughs hysterically*

That reminded me of my internship at KATV-7. Spent most of my time in an edit bay. It can be fun, if you're not working on the same package for a week. (The longest thing I worked on was a special presentation on the "Intern Olympics 2009." That was awesome. Including producing 10 DVD copies, it took me three days.)

Anyway, back to the comic, highly amusing in all regards.

Nice job on the lower-thirds, Rick. They looked like something a TV station's graphics department might produce.